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Second City Mock - Updated 3-21-13

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[quote name='rscott94' timestamp='1359156402' post='2114753']
I get sick of seeing you post this... You do realize we had Fua starting at NT that game because big Ron was out right? Anything with Fua starting isn't a stout DLine... Plus Brady Quin was Captain Checkdown that game IIRC he went deep a total of 2 maybe 3 times. And if they would've preformed like this the last two games I'd agree with you about being "fooled" they played good for 6 games man CB isn't on the top of the needs list.

Yes I'd be fine with Norman (playing press coverage not giving the WR cushion) and Thomas starting on the outside. If Rhodes is there in the second I'd take him but other than that (right now) I would feel fine with grabbing one in the 4th, 5th, or 6th round.
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Their is a good chance RON won't be here next year. So you can't use that as a excuse.

Brees had 396 yards passing 4td 1int

Oaklands QB got knock out (that won't happen all the time)

Philip Rivers was held in check because he has a horrible OLine

Ryan had 342 yards 2 td 1 int

The Torching By Brady Quinn 201 yards 2td 1int

And Nick Foles who is a rookie

These are the last 6 QB faced and the better ones torched us.

We Also look at the Freeman Game he had 248 yards and 3td 2 int (we lost in the last 4 mintues from his passing)

And then Peyton killed us as well.

Again we could lose Captain and Gamble and nobody thinks it could be a bigger need?



Last question

How many games did our WR's loss us compare to how many games the CB's did?

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1359161327' post='2114833']
Their is a good chance RON won't be here next year. So you can't use that as a excuse.

Brees had 396 yards passing 4td 1int

Oaklands QB got knock out (that won't happen all the time)

Philip Rivers was held in check because he has a horrible OLine

Ryan had 342 yards 2 td 1 int

The Torching By Brady Quinn 201 yards 2td 1int

And Nick Foles who is a rookie

These are the last 6 QB faced and the better ones torched us.

We Also look at the Freeman Game he had 248 yards and 3td 2 int (we lost in the last 4 mintues from his passing)

And then Peyton killed us as well.

Again we could lose Captain and Gamble and nobody thinks it could be a bigger need?



Last question

How many games did our WR's loss us compare to how many games the CB's did?
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I don't want us to draft a WR first... I want us to take a DT (preferably a NT) and a lot of those QB's you've named are the best in the league. I honestly think that we do need a CB but no need to reach for one IMO it's not as big of a need as NT or RG

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[quote name='rscott94' timestamp='1359161669' post='2114834']
I don't want us to draft a WR first... I want us to take a DT (preferably a NT) and a lot of those Q[u][b]B's you've named are the best in the league. [/b][/u]I honestly think that we do need a CB but no need to reach for one IMO it's not as big of a need as NT or RG
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That's not a excuse??? 3 of those guys are in our division so we will see them 6x next year.

CB has to be a 1st or 2nd Round option. Or at least bring in a strong vet FA.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1359161871' post='2114839']
That's not a excuse??? 3 of those guys are in our division so we will see them 6x next year.

CB has to be a 1st or 2nd Round option. Or at least bring in a strong vet FA.
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Ok, lets look at a scenario for a second we've just drafted a NT with the first and the second round approaches. On one hand you have a great offensive guard that has lasted to the Panthers spot (protect your franchise QB) in the other you have Xavier Rhodes who are you taking?

I seriously doubt we'll have money to bring in a serious vet FA

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[quote name='rscott94' timestamp='1359162150' post='2114844']

Ok, lets look at a scenario for a second we've just drafted a NT with the first and the second round approaches. On one hand you have a great offensive guard that has lasted to the Panthers spot (protect your franchise QB) in the other you have Xavier Rhodes who are you taking?

I seriously doubt we'll have money to bring in a serious vet FA
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I'd rather get a mid level vet RG instead of adding another young Guard on the line going thru the same thing we did this year. If we get a vet on at RG he can help Bell while he develops. And Gross and Kali can keep working with Amini .

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1359163028' post='2114859']
I'd rather get a mid level vet RG instead of adding another young Guard on the line going thru the same thing we did this year. If we get a vet on at RG he can help Bell while he develops. And Gross and Kali can keep working with Amini .
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True, but we'd have to make cap space with that.. Cap space we could resign Dwan or Munnerlyn with

To be honest this whole season is a clusterfug.. By March this time I might change my mind and say we will draft a CB in the 1st or 2nd round really it's too early to tell IMO lol

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1359160343' post='2114825']



Gamble is gone. Too old too much money and the easiest person to cut and save money. So stop the hope. let him go.
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I'm not hoping Gamble stay. I'm hoping we go after Cason, DRC or McKelvin

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Updated the mock, this time including a trade down.
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First and foremost, the trade down is lopsided toward the Colts by 156 points (#14:1100, #24, 88 and 120: 944). It would make much more sense if we traded down with them to get their 1st and 2nd (1080 total value).

As to you picks, I really like them except the first. I'm not much of a fan of Jenkins, but I wouldn't argue he has potential to be better than I've seen of him. If your mock was the way it played out, I'd be very happy overall and satisfied enough with Jenkins. Patton could very well go higher than the 3rd, but if we made a fair trade and got their 2nd instead of 3rd and 4th, that wouldn't be an issue.

In a fair trade we'd have #24 overall, two 2nds, a 4th, etc. Modifying your draft picks that are affected by that, I'd take Patton (or Hunter or one of the other high potential 2nd round WRs) with our 2nd, with the second 2nd take Bacarri Rambo, and pick up an OG in the 4th. Or we could go with an OG/OT with the second 2nd and get Jefferson like you said in the 4th but I like Rambo a lot more than Jefferson and probably more than most of the OG/OTs that'll probably be there at #24 in the 2nd.

Good mock though, I'd be very happy with that haul.

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If Patton is still there at our pick in the 2nd, I would be incredibly surprised. Much less being able to pick him in the 3rd.

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I haven't seen any mocks with him going in the early 2nd. A few with him going late 2nd, but not many. Granted, mocks are mocks and not GM opinion, but still, the consensus seems to be he's a borderline 2nd/3rd round prospect.

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[quote name='koolkatluke' timestamp='1359160343' post='2114825']


Gamble is gone. Too old too much money and the easiest person to cut and save money. So stop the hope. let him go.
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Just because we are not paying him what is contract is for ....does not mean we cannot sign him for the market rate

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