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[quote name='skarbar001' timestamp='1359129853' post='2114262']
Surprise, Surprise another Grantland article bashing the Panthers. The worst coaching decision this year was John Fox deciding to stay conservative (in a playoff game) and run the ball on 3rd and 7 to ice the game against the Ravens. You've got Peyton Manning as your QB and you run the ball to ice the game?!?!? Everyone knew it was coming, it's John fugn Fox.

Bill Barnwell is a fat looking assclown why anyone posts his poo is beyond me.
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it's basically the same thing.

conservative call at the worst possible time. you give the other team an opportunity to win/tie rather than you finding a way to keep the ball and the win.

it's making the mistake of trusting your defense to protect the lead in an era that heavily favors the deep pass. it's dumb.

if this was the only time that rivera made calls like this last year, i'd consider it an abberation, but it wasn't.
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You know your owner sucks when the coach pulls that poo and still kept his job.

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It was a textbook situation that failed because of a safety that forgot all the fundamentals on how to play the position. The actual punt was executed to perfection and with the lackadaisical issues we were having with the OL, there were no guarantees that we would get that 1st down unlike last year which would have been an automatic "duh"...especially with the opposition knowing what we would do. Just because we have a 100+ million dollar backfield doesn't mean jack when we have an OL performing like ass.

The issue is that our defense wasn't firing on all cylinders early in the season. Even though we dropped them near their goal line, I had a sneaking suspicion that they were going to roar right back. If I was coach, I probably would have gone for it because the offense had more going for them than the defense at that point of the season...which shows how much of a crappy team we were early on.

IMO, Rivera has done worse than the Naka-fail. The pillowy soft coverage against the Bears in the final minutes annoyed me more. I probably would have lost my mind if I watched the last Tampa Bay game. The game against the Chiefs was inexcusable. And so on...

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I swear this is getting pathetic.

The Huddle has turned into nothing more than a bitch and whine circle jerk with most if you.

No legit discussion.....just one thread after another bitching and moaning.

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[quote name='K9 ' timestamp='1359135732' post='2114367']


IMO, Rivera has done worse than the Naka-fail. The pillowy soft coverage against the Bears in the final minutes annoyed me more. I probably would have lost my mind if I watched the last Tampa Bay game. The game against the Chiefs was inexcusable. And so on...
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The Saints game at home too.

When i watched the Falcons game I was elated when we pinned them inside the one yard line. I don't fault him for not going for it honestly. There is a time and place for conservatism.

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...ahhhh memories.

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[quote name='K9 ' timestamp='1359135732' post='2114367']
It was a textbook situation that failed because of a safety that forgot all the fundamentals on how to play the position. The actual punt was executed to perfection and with the lackadaisical issues we were having with the OL, there were no guarantees that we would get that 1st down unlike last year which would have been an automatic "duh"...especially with the opposition knowing what we would do. Just because we have a 100+ million dollar backfield doesn't mean jack when we have an OL performing like ass.

The issue is that our defense wasn't firing on all cylinders early in the season. Even though we dropped them near their goal line, I had a sneaking suspicion that they were going to roar right back. If I was coach, I probably would have gone for it because the offense had more going for them than the defense at that point of the season...which shows how much of a crappy team we were early on.

IMO, Rivera has done worse than the Naka-fail. The pillowy soft coverage against the Bears in the final minutes annoyed me more. I probably would have lost my mind if I watched the last Tampa Bay game. The game against the Chiefs was inexcusable. And so on...
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I agree with most of what you stated, however I think our losses in the closing minutes to ATL and CHI caused Rivera to sit some of our DBs. I think Nakamura proved his ineptitude vs ATL because everything was done right with that punt. Great kick, great fielding, our defense was playing great that game (7 sacks I think) and Rivera called a good defensive play in that situation (man coverage + 2 deep safeties). I think Rivera wanted our DBs to be playing more physical vs Chicago and that is part of why Norman got benched.

The Chiefs game wasn't rigged, but the refs were definitely instructed to not call any penalties against KC that didn't need to be called. Anyone who watched that game can attest to that, and this happens anytime a player dies (Dallas vs Cincinatti this year as well).

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[quote name='Happy Panther' timestamp='1359136126' post='2114377']

The Saints game at home too.

When i watched the Falcons game I was elated when we pinned them inside the one yard line. I don't fault him for not going for it honestly. There is a time and place for conservatism.
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those moments are coming fewer and further between just because of how the rules make it easy for offenses to charge downfield quickly through the air.

like someone above said, it was a text book situation, but he emphasis is on [u][i]was[/i][/u]. you can't do that confidently anymore. you can't put your defenses in those situations because the cards are stacked against you thanks to rule changes protecting the QB and the WR, esp. after 5 yards. the game is set up now for those situations.

rivera played it by the book, but he was using an old book that is being rewritten. defensive and conservative minded coaches are behind in this and it's costing them games.

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This is a perfect example of why stat geeks don't coach in the NFL. Not only was it not the worst decision of the season. I was the absolute right decision.

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[quote name='teeray' timestamp='1359136758' post='2114392']
This is a perfect example of why stat geeks don't coach in the NFL. Not only was it not the worst decision of the season. I was the absolute right decision.
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maybe 5-10 years ago, but the way the game is evolving it puts you in dangerous territory.

you do not give the other team the ball, regardless of how good you think your defense is. period.

you can not trust your defense to stop a team, esp. that good of an offense, when the league is stacked against your defense. it just doesn't make sense to keep doing that kind of thing anymore.
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[quote name='MadHatter' timestamp='1359135841' post='2114371']
I swear this is getting pathetic.

The Huddle has turned into nothing more than a bitch and whine circle jerk with most if you.

No legit discussion.....just one thread after another bitching and moaning.
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this is what happens when you follow one disappointing season with yet another. AND it's the offseason... lose/lose.
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Yeah it wasn't a great decision but what the fug qualifies Bill Barnwell to question NFL head coaches?

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