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How much better is cam vs. the 3-4 than the 4-3?


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#25 rayzor

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

21/37, 233 YDS, 1 TD, 1 INT - Dallas

19/33, 231 YDS, 2 TD - SD

15/27, 232 YDS, 3 TD - KC


28/46, 432 YDS, 1 TD, 3 INT - GB

13/23, 149 YDS, 2 TD - Hou

24/37, 422 YDS, 2 TD, 1 INT - Ari

I think redskins are 3-4 too and he beast mode against them twice

thanks. thats a lot of what i was looking for.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:16 PM

oh i know that. i saw a comment some saints fan made that they were switching to a 34 because of cam and the other QBs in the NFCS, but i remembered that he has done well against them and it just got me wondering about how well he does.


I think our OLINE has more at blame facing 34 than does Cam

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:23 PM

They are going to a 3-4 because their 4-3 was never that great and it was terrible last fall. They have a lot of pressure to fix it and changing things up to see if you can get better results makes sense. Doesn't mean it will work but it makes sense. Wonder how much they have for free agents and in dead cap space by releasing veterans who don't fit the scheme.

yeah, the reason for changing isn't all that important to me. it will be interesting to see what kind of finagling they'll have to do to make it happen. they've got more of a cap mess than we do.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:28 PM

I look at PFR rayzor and here is Cam's average against 3-4 D in 8 games played, with a 4-4 record.

18.9 passes completed
31.1 passes attempted
269.5 yards passing
60.64% completions
1.63 TD
.63 INT
97.7 Rating

7.5 Rush Attempts
40.38 Rushing Yards
.5 Rushing TD

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:43 PM

yeah, the reason for changing isn't all that important to me. it will be interesting to see what kind of finagling they'll have to do to make it happen. they've got more of a cap mess than we do.


Wouldn't surprise me if it's for the sake of image as much as anything.

Gotta do something after you just fielded the worst defense in history, right?

Add in that Payton's probably arrogant enough to believe he could win games even if the Saints only sent six defenders out on the field, so he probably isn't tied to a particular system.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:53 PM

I look at PFR rayzor and here is Cam's average against 3-4 D in 8 games played, with a 4-4 record.

18.9 passes completed
31.1 passes attempted
269.5 yards passing
60.64% completions
1.63 TD
.63 INT
97.7 Rating

7.5 Rush Attempts
40.38 Rushing Yards
.5 Rushing TD

good stuff.

i hate (not really) to ask this, but how does that compare with the 43 teams?

thanks in advance.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:59 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if it's for the sake of image as much as anything.

Gotta do something after you just fielded the worst defense in history, right?

Add in that Payton's probably arrogant enough to believe he could win games even if the Saints only sent six defenders out on the field, so he probably isn't tied to a particular system.

true. if you screw up royally, look busy. you've got to look like you're taking drastic measures.

oh, and what you said about payton is funny because its true.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

true. if you screw up royally, look busy. you've got to look like you're taking drastic measures.

oh, and what you said about payton is funny because its true.


I think if you looked up "arrogant prick" in the dictionary, it would list him as their god.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:25 PM

good stuff.

i hate (not really) to ask this, but how does that compare with the 43 teams?

thanks in advance.


Well without looking I know Cam has an 88-89ish career QB rating. So at a glance it seems he does better by a decent margin against 3-4 defenses. From a pure numbers perspective of course.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

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