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#31 MadHatter

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

I know lots of obese people. None want to be obese.


I did not say that they do not want to be obese. But, it is their choice to have had poor eating habits and poor exercise habits.

Once you are obese, it is very difficult to have the will power to change your complete lifestyle. But this does not change the fact that getting that way was a result in poor choices they made during their lives.

I am not judging (as I have very poor exercise habits and marginal eating habits)....and I have the expanded waistline to prove it. But, I know that I have this body because of the choices I make (eating crap) and the choices that I do not make (to exercise regularly)

#32 MadHatter

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:56 AM

Thanks old wise one. Ignoranced can be fixed.




Prick! Being a prick can't.


Please explain how someone deciding to start smoking is not a choice......

Once you are a smoker, I know it is extremely difficult to stop. But, it is still a choice.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

Please explain how someone deciding to start smoking is not a choice......

Once you are a smoker, I know it is extremely difficult to stop. But, it is still a choice.

Sorry. We know you are not a prick.
Anyway, what about if you were working on a backer field, pulling backer and your coworkers and daddy pressure you to light up. I mean with like beatings and such. Hanging you upside down from the 6 tire in a 7 tier backer barn, while they are curing backer? Huh? What about that?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:21 PM

you could still stop smoking.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:41 PM

Next it will be the beer and liquor drinkers.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:47 PM

Next it will be the beer and liquor drinkers.


Doubtful. Moderate drinkers are healthier than those who abstain

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 09:51 PM

Doubtful. Moderate drinkers are healthier than those who abstain


give them time.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:21 PM

you could still stop smoking.

Done smoked.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

Slippery slope is slippery.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:19 PM

Personal responsibility, embrace it. A healthier society benefits everyone, especially those closest to you. :nurse:

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:25 PM

like the personal responsibility of not needing the gov to make you buy healthcare?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:43 AM

like the personal responsibility of not needing the gov to make you buy healthcare?

The conservative think tank/Heritage Foundation, advocated the concept of the government mandating people purchase private health insurance. It was sold as a way for people to be personally responsible for their own medical coverage. The Heritage Foundation considered just showing up at the emergency room without insurance and expecting society to cover your medical costs, as a failure to fulfill your personal responsibilities. You may remember that socialistic system, it was the one we had in place prior to the passage of the ACA.

#43 MadHatter

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:15 AM

Sorry. We know you are not a prick.
Anyway, what about if you were working on a backer field, pulling backer and your coworkers and daddy pressure you to light up. I mean with like beatings and such. Hanging you upside down from the 6 tire in a 7 tier backer barn, while they are curing backer? Huh? What about that?


You still chose to start....regardless of "why" you chose to start.

By using your logic, you are justifying any behavior.

What if your friends pressured you to kill someone? I guess killing someone is not a choice anymore.

#44 g5jamz

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:47 AM

There are studies that show two drinks a day are healthy. Doesn't matter if white wine...red wine...two beers...or two mixed drinks. Ethanol seems to be the issue...not antioxidants in one over the other.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

Well it was either this or the concentration camps Romney would put 40% of the poors in.. But hey he ran a business even though he passed the same fugin bill in his state. Skull n Bones + Mormon = Voldermort



need a link cause this slanderous!


Nothing slanderous about the Skull and Bones having Nazi ties...just quit being so serious. Now Mitt creating concentration camps is fo real. ; I

Also, I have no link that equates Romney to Voldermort. Never realized his sons were posting in the Tinderbox.

*updated...I do have a link..actual footage.



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ok ill stop now..lol..you can find anything on the internets!


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