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Post Senior Bowl Mock Draft! *updated*

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okay so this is my second mock...the next will be after the combine.

okay i want to trade back to 26 for a extra 2, 4 an 6. also i would trade gamble(5th,d-will(5th) and beason or thomas davis(6th)

and i will add the two 6th round comp picks...okay so lets get started


lol if you do not think those trades would work, the mock would just be this.

1, jonanthan banks
2. larry warford
2.markus wheaton(trade down extra)
4.brandon williams
5.jonanthan cyprien
6.joseph fauria
6.jasper collins(comp)
6conrnelius washingston(comp)................thanks guys for the feed back!!






1. jonathan banks-with some cb's rising banks could fall a bit, but no worries he had 12 ints. he is good corner that shuts down the wr completely most times. with gamble gone panthers need a true no1 cb.






2.larry warford-ford needs to give this guy a deal for his last name.thats just what he is..a big powerful truck that goes through anything. warford has had a great senior bowl and opened up gaping holes. he is not that far from chance warmack and will be great pickup to help with the oline.





2.markus wheaton- a speedy wr that has been compared to mike wallce during senior practices. he had 90 grabs, over a thousand yards and about 12 tds.wheaton can easliy beat corners deep and get alot of seperation until he draws double coverage. which leaves the other wr wide OPEN.


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjtiPitIsgE[/media]



4.brandon williams-a big 340 pound dt who can move well enough to get sacks. b-will rose up draft boards with great practices at the senior bowl. ths a big guy who can get push and will require double teams.williams can help the turn the panthers line into a great one because its not far away.




4.brennan williams- lol aother williams. he is a guy that is just a stud at right tackle who got hurt. so while he should be a 2nd he dropped a bit due to his injury. brennan blocked for bernard who is the top rb coming out of the draft.most times when you see a great running back he has a great oline but they never get the cred.(he is number 73 if you watch the video)





5.keth pough- a small school olb that can make tackles all over tha field and cover te just as good. why this pick? well for starters our lb core is old,hurt and some might get traded. also coming into the 2012 seasom with luke and beason back, i thought the lb core would be much improved. but i was wrong and they gave up alot of yards to rookie rbs. keith also has the most tackles for lost in history for the FCS with 71 and also had very good practices at the east west shrine game.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoeIqAnpL74[/media]



5.jonanthan cyprien-another small school guy thats getting some attention since joining the senior bowl. he is a strong saftey that plays agressive and makes the sure tackle. in his last season he led the team with 93 tackles, had 4 ints and 5 pass break ups.





5.stephan taylor-stanford rb that stood out at the senior bowl as the most complete back. he can run in or out side the tackles and blocks very well. he also can catch out the backfield and make a play. he does not have blazing speed but he has good vision an can break tackles. this guy seems like he could be this years alfred morris. in his last season he had 1500 yards with 14 tds and also knocked off oregon from its title dreams.also you need a guy if dwill is gone, even though they have a bunch of unproven backs.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8jwc3NNSZ8[/media]




6.caleb sturgis-a clutch kicker that panthers really need to stop juggling avg guys. kicked a 49 yarder at the east west shrine game. so he can make the long kicks to with accuracy.





6.brandon mcgee-another corner since you dont have a sure fire starter for the other side. you never know how nortman or thomas will turn out. mcgee is a guy that didnt play up to his true ability but he has the skills to be great if he can be consistent. when i watched him i was most impressed by his speed to close in on guys if he had got beaten deep. he also is a guy that looks to strip guys and will go for the int. he had great week of practice at the ew game and had a great game at the end of that week.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8qahOLtB1A[/media]



6.jasper collins-a small school superstar that comes from the same school as pierre garcon and cecil shorts. had over 1,600 yards with over 20 tds. reminds me of quinton patton a lil bit and he can also return punts. collins impressed scout at the ew practices with his great route running and sure hands. this guy could be another mount union wr like garcon to take the nfl by storm out of no where. has slot capability like percy harvin if you ask me.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoeLMG9RXEw[/media]



6.joseph fauria-newton needs tall wr to match his high release point?? well this is this the guy to get. fauria had over 500 yards and about 11 tds, with most coming in the redzone. he could help the panthers be less laggy in the redzone as it always seems they get down there but end up having to settle for three points. he also blocks well and he is a staggering 6'7 in height.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WocpNZucAo[/media]


6.cornelius washington-a guy who came out of nowhere to impress everyone at the senior practices. washington gets great push and is a guy that could really develop into something great behnd cj and hardy. he also had a few hurries at the bowl game and one sack if i recall right. plus gettleman loves drafting pass rusher and he would be a good choice in the later rounds.(he wears no 83 in the video)

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The second you give us that many extra picks, it instantly becomes a fantasy mock and not even worth discussing.

This ain't madden.

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and extra 2, 4, and 6?!?!

da fuq

We would be luck just to get a 2nd or a 3rd alone.

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[quote name='Bwood' timestamp='1359277182' post='2115924']
The second you give us that many extra picks, it instantly becomes a fantasy mock and not even worth discussing.

This ain't madden.
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I am intrigued by some of the late round players he mentioned so there is value looking into them. Aside from that, I agree that this mock is totally absurd.

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Beason's salary makes him a Panther for at least 2 years.
DWill's last game may cause a team to bite for a low draft pick, but you would lose salary cap room if you do not make him a June 1 cut (I am pretty sure about that).

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[quote name='Dash Global' timestamp='1359281241' post='2115932']
and extra 2, 4, and 6?!?!

da fuq

We would be luck just to get a 2nd or a 3rd alone.
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You are wrong. It would generally require the second and at least one more.

Bigger question would be why Green Bay would want to jump up to 14 so badly.
Love to hear that part.
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Warford will probably be a first round pick, or at least gone before we pick in the 2nd.

I do not see us taking a CB first. Josh Thomas played well and Josh Norman will improve. There is plenty of DBs to found later.
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The idea that a 30 year old RB with a massive contract will get you a 5th round pick is laughable.

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But it worked in Madden!!!1

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thanks guys for the feed back. that was my quick draft that i did at night while i was half asleep...so thats why i had to update to correct spelling lol

i also made a draft without any trades that may be a bit more realistic. i'll try to get video footage of small school guys that you guys probably had not seen yet. feel free to tell what you think is bad or not. thanks so much. lol

here is cyprien the strong saftey....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxTBKjPBgQ

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I like the cyprien pick late, and I'm pretty sure we talked to him at the senior bowl this week. Hes in the box almost every play, covers TEs well too

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The only RB we have a chance of trading is Stewart and we should look into it.
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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1359323288' post='2116251']
The only RB we have a chance of trading is Stewart and we should look into it.
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whoa never thought id hear that...why do you you think the panthers should trade him because he's injured?? what you think they could get for him..maybe a 2nd rounder.....


i know alot of fans would be mad as hell. lol well at least on the huddle....

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I yelled constantly about it before signing him. Then, in glorious Panther fashion, we signed him and tried to corner the market on RB's when our offense didn't even utilize them like in the past. Frustrating.

But, the DWill thing is a killer and he is still good. Quit crying about spilled milk. Keep him, trade Stewart if someone will accept his contract and go on, never falling in love with a RB again.

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1359324309' post='2116257']
I yelled constantly about it before signing him. Then, in glorious Panther fashion, we signed him and tried to corner the market on RB's when our offense didn't even utilize them like in the past. Frustrating.

But, the DWill thing is a killer and he is still good. Quit crying about spilled milk. Keep him, trade Stewart if someone will accept his contract and go on, never falling in love with a RB again.
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you must hink stephan taylor can be just as good as stewart lol

yeah i kind of agree since running backs are not of value like they were. you can find them in later rounds or jouney men....like what they did with corey in new england. bill is smart. build that oline and kill two birds with one stone. better passing and running attack instanly.

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1359324309' post='2116257']
I yelled constantly about it before signing him. Then, in glorious Panther fashion, we signed him and tried to corner the market on RB's when our offense didn't even utilize them like in the past. Frustrating.

But, the DWill thing is a killer and he is still good. Quit crying about spilled milk. Keep him, trade Stewart if someone will accept his contract and go on, never falling in love with a RB again.
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you must hink stephan taylor can be just as good as stewart lol

yeah i kind of agree since running backs are not of value like they were. you can find them in later rounds or jouney men....like what they did with corey in new england. bill is smart. build that oline and kill two birds with one stone. better passing and running attack instanly.

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[quote name='BigSyke' timestamp='1359324057' post='2116255']


whoa never thought id hear that...why do you you think the panthers should trade him because he's injured?? what you think they could get for him..[b]maybe a 2nd rounder.....[/b]


i know alot of fans would be mad as hell. lol well at least on the huddle....
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I would be incredibly surprised if we got more than a 3rd-4th for Stewart.

I know we all love our players, but RBs aren't worth that much anymore. They're a dime a dozen. In fact, think about this. Stevan Ridley rushed for 1200+ yards this season. If a guy like Ridley can come into an offense that runs with [b]4[/b] different RBs and get 1200 yards, do you honestly think that people are going to give up a second for a running back who has had heel/toe/foot problems?

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[quote name='Ruff' timestamp='1359325023' post='2116261']

I would be incredibly surprised if we got more than a 3rd-4th for Stewart.

I know we all love our players, but RBs aren't worth that much anymore. They're a dime a dozen. In fact, think about this. Stevan Ridley rushed for 1200+ yards this season. If a guy like Ridley can come into an offense that runs with [b]4[/b] different RBs and get 1200 yards, do you honestly think that people are going to give up a second for a running back who has had heel/toe/foot problems?
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i agree man ...he would probably net a 4th round at most. im wondering if all our fans know rbs are not that valued how does the panthers front office not know.....lol

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1359297191' post='2115981']
You are wrong. It would generally require the second and at least one more.

Bigger question would be why Green Bay would want to jump up to 14 so badly.
Love to hear that part.
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Yea, there seems to be a belief floating around that dropping 10+ picks would only net us a 3rd or worse. If we were to drop to 26th (12 spots) we'd have to get at least a 2nd and 4th (1100 pts for #14 vs 700 for #26, 330 for #57, 52 for #121). Of course the value chart isn't stone tablet law but I don't think Gettleman is going to stray too far from established values.

Maybe Ansah is available at 14 and GB wants to jump up to take him. /shrug

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Think through it guys. For someone to want our pick, they most likely want to jump in front of New Orleans. Since NO is going to a 3-4, they need a lot of D, with the building blocks being a NT and rushing OLB.

Who else needs that badly enough to jump NO?

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1359328134' post='2116298']
Think through it guys. For someone to want our pick, they most likely want to jump in front of New Orleans. Since NO is going to a 3-4, they need a lot of D, with the building blocks being a NT and rushing OLB.

Who else needs that badly enough to jump NO?
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All it takes is a team that falls in love with a particular defensive prospect or anyone for that matter. If there is a team that goes crazy for let's say Datone Jones, Hunt, or Ansah, I could see someone trying to move up to the mid-teens. The Steelers, Cowboys, & Saints could all use defenders and a team later in the 1st could try and leapfrog them to grab one of the DEs or something.

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yeah it would have to be a dt or de......that they would want to trade up for.

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Trades are hard to predict, especially in January. I actually believe there's a good chance we move down in the draft unless we fall in love with a player, or my personally favorite, Chance Warmack falls. Teams are always looking for 3-4 OLB that can rush and it seems these guys rise faster than others. Dion Jordan, Ezekiel Ansah and Barkevious Mingo seem to be guys who might fall to #14 and entice a trade up from a 3-4 team.

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DWill and Beason are not tradeable before June 1st, so forget that.

It is also extremely unlikely that Stewart could be traded. His contract is structured so that last year and this year are dirt cheap, but then guaranteed $ kick in and he gets expensive. We can't take the hit to absorb that guaranteed money, so we'd have to find a team willing to accept that, and I don't see that happening even if we gave him away for a 7th.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1359385448' post='2116821']
DWill and Beason are not tradeable before June 1st, so forget that.

It is also extremely unlikely that Stewart could be traded. His contract is structured so that last year and this year are dirt cheap, but then guaranteed $ kick in and he gets expensive. We can't take the hit to absorb that guaranteed money, so we'd have to find a team willing to accept that, and I don't see that happening even if we gave him away for a 7th.
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maybe lions or bengals lol

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