Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Seriously, fug this state(voter id)

122 posts in this topic

Posted

When in doubt.

It's racism.

JT people have been talking about Vote fraud for years.

Granted it has become a bigger issue the past decade or so.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Kinda odd that this voter id "fraud" wasn't addressed when George W Bush was elected President........but now it's an issue because younger black, and minorities are voting more. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm

It's an issue because any person with some semblance of intelligence knows how to get around our current election laws. With illegal GOTV efforts, absentee fraud, and prosecutions, it's time to crack down. You can make it about race if you want. Laws that aren't based in racial qualifications but yet seem to impact a particular demographic doesn't necessarily make them bad law. See soda ban.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Maybe I'm missing something, but why is it a bad thing to make sure someone is who they say they are before they're allowed to vote?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/roxanne-rubin_n_2566297.html

In case you have forgotten that this IS indeed the most blatantly unpatriotic, partisan, America hating idea ever invented.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is as stupid as she is, but not as brave.

A Nevada Republican arrested for voter fraud in the 2012 election, after claiming she was trying to test the system's integrity, pled guilty and accepted a plea deal Thursday, forcing her to pay almost $2,500 and promise to stay out of trouble.

Roxanne Rubin, 56, a casino worker on the Las Vegas Strip, was arrested on Nov. 3, 2012 after trying to vote twice, once at her poling site in Henderson and then at a second site in Las Vegas. The poll workers at the second site said that she had already voted, but Rubin said that she hadn't and insisted on casting a ballot, which the poll workers refused to allow her to do.

Rubin said that she was trying to show how easy it would be to commit voter fraud with just a signature. "This has always been an issue with me. I just feel the system is flawed," she told the AP Thursday. "If we’re showing ID for everything else, why wouldn’t we show our ID in order to vote?”

Rubin, like many Republicans, claim that the threat from voter fraud -- which is close to non-existent -- is why voter ID laws need to be in place. But Nevada has no voter ID law -- other than for first-time voters who didn't show ID when they registered to vote -- and she was caught anyway.

The prosecutor in the case said he knew of no other voters in Nevada or elsewhere arrested for voter fraud.

Democratic Nevada Secretary of State Ross Miller, who has called for a photo ID law, slammed Rubin in a statement. "If Ms. Rubin was trying to demonstrate how easy it is to commit voter fraud, she clearly failed and proved just the opposite," he said.

Rubin's deal requires her to pay $2,481 to the state in restitution, complete 100 hours of community service, stay out of trouble and complete an impulse control course.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Why do some people want to keep voter fraud easier?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Monday that Republicans should not have tried to reduce voter turnout during their failed effort to win the White House, doubling down on his recent criticism of the GOP.

“Should we really have gone after reducing the turnout of voters in those places where we thought it would make a difference? The Republican Party should be a party that says, ‘We want everybody to vote,’ and make it easier to vote and give them a reason to vote for the party, [whereas] not to find ways to keep them from voting at all,” Powell said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/colin-powell-republicans-voter-id-86488.html#ixzz2JJnvvofU

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

A truly pathetic attempt by Republicans to stop the poor, homeless, etc to keep from voting. This is an attack on democracy, so fug this state, and fug Pat McCrory.

Look,

I don't identify with any party, and I don't know a damn thing about Purdue or McCrory.

I did, however, realize I could have voted numerous times, under my brother's name, my dad's name, and my name, all because we have the same address on our voter's information and I would have not been required to show any identification. I could have just hopped to a different poling station and lied about my identity.

It makes me wonder, how many dead people potentially voted this year? Lets say a white male in his forties goes and votes under the name of a deceased white male in his forties, just so he can vote twice and give his candidate of choice another vote.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

they've literally admitted that there's little to no voter fraud and that they are doing this to f*ck with voter turnout and sway elections... are you people just in denial... or do you not care?

in b4 "both sides do it."

There is actual evidence that voter id laws had little to no impact on turnout or election results or anything else. Are you people just in denial or do you just want something to complain about.

In b4 only the side I don't like does it..

Fwiw, there is no way I would support this if the government is unwilling to provide id's free of charge. Requiring id's and charging for them would in effect be a poll tax. But if the government is willing to provide id's, then the only legitimate complaint about this is the cost to the gof providing the id's.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Voter ID law impact on voter turnout

In Tennessee, where a new photo voter-ID law went into effect this year, the Secretary of State’s Office reported no negative impact on turnout, reporting turnout rates “consistent with past presidential elections,” said Communications Director Blake Fontenay.

“If anything, the law may have encouraged more people to vote because they were more confident their ballots would not be cancelled out by ballots cast by ineligible voters,” Fontenay told ProPublica.

Out of 2.45 million ballots cast statewide, 674 Tennessee voters filled out provisional ballots for lacking acceptable photo ID.

New Hampshire Deputy Secretary of State Dave Scanlan said that while the state doesn’t have a final tally on voters who filled out challenged voter affidavit forms as a result of lacking ID, the number “appears to be quite low, possibly less than 1 percent.”

Oh my god, stop the presses, the republicans are trying to influence the elections with 674 votes. And notice that those who didn't have an id still got to vote?

“What we saw, by and large, was the same problems we’ve seen over the last 10 years,” said Eric Marshall, manager of legal mobilization for the Lawyers’ Committee. “The biggest theme was the recurring problems: the more things change, the more things stay the same.”

Almost no impact in the states that have enacted or are preparing to enact voter id laws. Much ado about nothing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Yes lets just say that, although there is ZERO EVIDENCE THIS EXISTS and substiantiated evidence that VoteRId, purposely long lines in places like Florida, etc DID affect voter turnout, because its not about reality, it's about the fantasy that people spend time thinking about ways to vote 2 times instead of once, risking federal prison time because it's somehow worth the risk.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites