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Seriously, fug this state(voter id)


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#73 google larry davis

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:10 AM

hey it's only $10 that means it's totally not a poll tax guys because what's $10 anyway right

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:29 AM

He's talking about having id...if the state mandates it...they cannot charge for it.

Carry on.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:28 PM

Honestly why would someone/anyone be opposed to this.

Unless you want people voting how they are told to vote vs voting with information they have gathered themselves.

If you can't read, in theory, it should be next to impossible for you to vote with any type of personal opinion.


there are a number of post-literate societies globally that deserve a voice. i think it's a dangerous precedent to deny them that right (and denying someone a vote based on ultimately arbitrary educational parameters in general scares me, even though i fully understand [and quite often lean towards] the sentiment that idiots should not be allowed to vote.)

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

there are a number of post-literate societies globally that deserve a voice. i think it's a dangerous precedent to deny them that right (and denying someone a vote based on ultimately arbitrary educational parameters in general scares me, even though i fully understand [and quite often lean towards] the sentiment that idiots should not be allowed to vote.)



My point is, how can you know who you are voting for if you can't read the name on the ballot.

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Honest conversation here. I could give a poo about voter ID's, but I don't see the evil in it

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 08:56 PM

how is "i can't read so i'm going to select the name that looks the most interesting" any different from "obummer is a socialist so i'ma vote for the other guy"

since we're having an honest conversation here, what makes the second opinion valid and the first opinion invalid

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:57 PM

so by the dems being up in arms about this, are they admitting by proxy they have this segment of society in the bag?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

yeah it appears as though those who have been systematically oppressed and/or have lived their lives in poverty seem to gravitate to the party that at least attempts to give the impression that it actually gives a poo. imagine that!

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 10:44 PM

impression is the operative word.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

i agree. the democratic party for the most part promotes the same free market laissez faire bullshit that only encourages social stratification. while their stances on things like gay marriage aren't entirely abhorrent (unlike the republicans), much of what they promote is the same old failed neoliberal garbage. that being said, i can't fault poor people and minorities for voting for some glimmer of hope rather than the alternative, the republican party, which at this point is essentially the party of white nationalism.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

no argument here. the only thing i would say tho is maybe just once vote outside of your ongoing bloc(poor) and see what happens.

hence my ongoing frustration with either side telling people exactly what they want to hear to get a vote then disappear behind their admin asst and email.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:15 PM

that argument only works when a vote outside of the two major parties counts, and a vote outside of the two major parties will never really count until we see serious electoral reform. until then, rather than vote outside of the party, the best course of action is to vote for better candidates in primaries.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:36 AM

how is "i can't read so i'm going to select the name that looks the most interesting" any different from "obummer is a socialist so i'ma vote for the other guy"

since we're having an honest conversation here, what makes the second opinion valid and the first opinion invalid


No one like that exists. Especially here on the huddle....

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