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Panthers ranked 27th at offensive line per PFF


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#25 rayzor

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:26 AM

While he had bad momments, Almini wasn't nearly as awful as Hangman this year.

Bell/Hangman cause each other to struggle IMO.

agreed. i just haven't been thrilled about seeing another rookie or two on skates for a couple years while we are supposedly interested in winning now.
I'd rather us just get solid vets who don't have to learn how to stand their ground so we can hit the ground running.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

agreed. i just haven't been thrilled about seeing another rookie or two on skates for a couple years while we are supposedly interested in winning now.
I'd rather us just get solid vets who don't have to learn how to stand their ground so we can hit the ground running.


We have poo the bed trying to win now.
I'm much more interested in building the lines out and repairing our cap situation.

We need to be thinking about building a long time contender during Cam's second contract, not a up in flames cap disaster that is out of the playoffs in a flash.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

We have poo the bed trying to win now.
I'm much more interested in building the lines out and repairing our cap situation.

We need to be thinking about building a long time contender during Cam's second contract, not a up in flames cap disaster that is out of the playoffs in a flash.

I'm thinking we can be doing both. we don't need elite studs on the OL, just solid guys that don't get pushed around and give cam some breathing room and we don't have to break the bank doing it. get the line solid for the short term and then add/groom pieces for the long term.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:44 AM

I'm thinking we can be doing both. we don't need elite studs on the OL, just solid guys that don't get pushed around and give cam some breathing room and we don't have to break the bank doing it. get the line solid for the short term and then add/groom pieces for the long term.



You are asking for a piece of ass from a bar.

I want the super model that can change her appearance on demand and is a nymphomaniac.

It's time to build something worth fuging having around here and stop being content to be "ok" at a position. ESPECIALLY the LINES

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:08 AM

You are asking for a piece of ass from a bar.

I want the super model that can change her appearance on demand and is a nymphomaniac.

It's time to build something worth fuging having around here and stop being content to be "ok" at a position. ESPECIALLY the LINES

did i say i don't want a great OL? did i say i didn't want to draft OL in the first?

why the crap does it have to be either/or?

i don't see the sense in sacrificing a year or two of solid playing time from other guys on the team while waiting for a rookie or two to lose his skates. fix the OL for the short term and build for the long term. i just don't want rookies on the OL...at least for a while. i want a winning season or two. i trust gettleman to be able to find hidden and affordable gems for the OL while he finds reliable guys for the future.

I'm tired of always having to look a long way down the road waiting for rome to get built.

we need wins now to have any hope in the future.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

I don't care what the stats say, you can just watch some games from 2012 and see that OL is a huge area of need for the Panthers. If you can just protect Cam, even with the weapons he already has, the Panthers will be solid on offense.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:13 AM

Getting Kalil back will help a lot. Gross has another 2-3 years left and, as the article says, isn't as bad as some here seem to think these days.

Silatolu was a rookie coming from division 2 playing a different position than he did in college. Way too soon to give up on him.

What we need is to sign a FA guard or draft one in the first 2 rounds - ideally Chance Warmack in the 1st or the best guard available in the 2nd.

We can get by with Bell, but it wouldn't hurt to bring in someone who can compete for the job. We just don't have the picks/cap space to get a new starting right tackle right now.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:52 AM

Get rid of Bell too.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:41 PM

As much as I agree the right side of the line needs improvement. IMO, we need playmakers, and RG or RT are not playmaker positions. I would not use a 1st or 2nd, but anything from the 4th on down is fine, just not a pick of value for the right side.

Our first two picks need to be athletic playmakers that can change a game. WR, DT, and DB are the positions where you can find these guys. They just also happen to be positions of need for us.

Upgrading the right side of the Oline should be a priority. And really shouldn't be that difficult. Just not with the first two picks.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

As much as I agree the right side of the line needs improvement. IMO, we need playmakers, and RG or RT are not playmaker positions. I would not use a 1st or 2nd, but anything from the 4th on down is fine, just not a pick of value for the right side.

Our first two picks need to be athletic playmakers that can change a game. WR, DT, and DB are the positions where you can find these guys. They just also happen to be positions of need for us.

Upgrading the right side of the Oline should be a priority. And really shouldn't be that difficult. Just not with the first two picks.


DT's that play the 1 tech are anything but playmakers, and that's our biggest d-line need. They just take up space so others can make plays.

As to the right side of the o-line, my preferred approach (signing a FA guard and drafting a tackle) still allows us to draft a playmaking WR in the 1st or 2nd round, while also obtaining our future starting LT, arguably the 2nd highest value position behind only QB.

Take a look at what kind of players most teams have playing the nose. The vast majority were not high draft picks, because those role players are not that highly valued, especially in a 4-3 defense. As to DB's, how many around the league are true playmakers? Very few.

The true playmakers are WR's, QB's, DE's, and RB's. We're pretty good at 3 of those positions.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

Wait...there were five teams out there with a worse O-Line than US?! Good lord I feel bad for them.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 06:15 PM

But lets draft a defensive tackle!!!!

We can draft more than one player.