Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

What does Gettleman need to do to make you optimistic for 2013?

75 posts in this topic

Posted · Report post

My response is much more simple and basic.

It's when Gettleman tells us he's watched all the game film from 2012 and 2011 (for Cam and Rivera).

Once he does this, we'll know that he has a full understanding of what's going on for himself, when/if he has to make or listen to decisions.

He mentioned on the radio yesterday, he may start watching game film this week, when asked about the Panther Roster regarding the salary Cap. Obviously, he wasn't ready to answer with out doing so.

If/when he does this, it'll let's us know, not only how harder a worker he is. But it let's us know how thorough he is, and how he wants to get it right (can you really trust the Panther staff fully, if you haven't seen the games for yourself)?

We already know he has the background. He just needs the proper understanding of our team.

Once he does/knows this, I feel he'll make the right decisions (regarding the draft, free agency and salary cap).

Let's hope that Gettle and Ron can help each other, in regards to Panther players, The Cap and Free Agency.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='ButWhysTheRumGone' timestamp='1359475979' post='2118100']
Like everyone else has said. Get the cap straightened out. That means cutting fan favorites. Rebuild O-line and add parts to D-line for the future. Trade back, pick up a lot of picks if possible. Even though we are or should be in rebuilding mode, I still think we have a contender. We just need to be a lot smarter about contracts, so that we can have a sustained successful franchise.

Cut Gamble, Cut DLo/Stewart, eventually cut Gross (If we can't draft a LT, it's impossible to let him go), we can't cut Beason because of the cap hit (restructure or cut when finiancial feasible). Cut Hangman, Cut Naka, Cut Martin, Cut Armanti. And start building a contender from the trenches. Build around Cam and Kuechly they are our future. Sign and draft guys that can make an impact from the bottom, up. Easier said then done though.
[/quote]

I agree with alot of this. We need to do something with our running backs. I say it should be Stewart. He is only three and a half years younger and plays like he has more wear and tear than D-Lo. People on the board are starting to come around to the idea a little at a time. I believe we should give Gross one last year too if we cannot draft a tackle. I disagree on Martin though. I believe we should sign him to something cheap and let him play special teams. One of those guys we are familiar with type deals. All we need are a couple of more o-lineman and we need to address DT situation immediately. Inside out is how it should be done. WR, CB, and Safety follow after the trenches. I disagree on Martin though. I believe we should sign him to something cheap and let him play special teams. One of those guys we are familiar with type deals. With last year's run with our "young guys", we should know exactly where to go in FA and the draft.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

start cleaning up Hurney's mess.....which will tick off a good number of fans.

If we were just going to play Hurney magic and move money keeping messes to deal with the following year....then we should of just kept Hurn-dawg. We need to start making room for Gentlemen players and start moving Hurney guys out that don't fit our new "core".
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Kurb and Chef17's post reflect how I feel. I'm pretty down and don't have good feelings with this Panther team.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='ProSource' timestamp='1359476957' post='2118116']

I agree with alot of this. We need to do something with our running backs. I say it should be Stewart. He is only three and a half years younger and plays like he has more wear and tear than D-Lo. People on the board are starting to come around to the idea a little at a time. I believe we should give Gross one last year too if we cannot draft a tackle. I disagree on Martin though. I believe we should sign him to something cheap and let him play special teams. One of those guys we are familiar with type deals. All we need are a couple of more o-lineman and we need to address DT situation immediately. Inside out is how it should be done. WR, CB, and Safety follow after the trenches. I disagree on Martin though. I believe we should sign him to something cheap and let him play special teams. One of those guys we are familiar with type deals. With last year's run with our "young guys", we should know exactly where to go in FA and the draft.
[/quote]

I think we should cut Stewart as well. As hard as it is for me to say that, DLo probably has 3 years left in him. We can draft another running back in 3 years. I love stewart he is one of my favorite players, especially because of making vilma his bitch in pass protection, but we gotta part ways. We can't have 90 million dollars in the backfield. Imagine what we could do with that money elsewhere. As for Martin, he shredded his knee towards the end of the season, cut your losses.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

I don't think the cap situation can be fixed in one season. Just too many recent bad contracts. But I think significant progress can be attained if hard decisions are made.

1. Cut as many of the fat contracts with average production as possible. Yes, we'll lose a few fan favorites. But there really aren't many untouchables on this team - if you're being objective.
1a. Replace those cuts with quality players, just as productive but much less expensive.

2. Improve the o-line through draft and free agency. Contrary to some other beliefs, I think the biggest problem last year was the offensive line. They played better towards the end of the year, but they were horrible at the beginning. If Cam Newton wasn't as tough and mobile as he is, I'm sure he would have been on IR by midseason.

3. If possible, improve the interior d-line with young talent. This in no way should take priority of o-line improvement.

4. If possible, bring in veteran talent for the defensive backfield. That group is too young. Talented, but too young. A ball-hawking FS is the biggest need, but any position that can get 5-7 picks next year would be a huge improvement. I love their physicality, but INTs change games.
1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Saying things like "replace people with quality players" and "draft people who will contribute" do little for me. I can't imagine a GM who wouldn't attempt to do both, and neither is easily judged in the short term.

I like the idea of replacing the scouting staff, but he can't do that right away because the current crop already has all their research done, so he will at least need to wait until after free agency and the draft to begin moving there.

Contract restructuring and generating a more cap-friendly set of commitments is something he can probably start doing in the next month. It would be nice to see that happen asap.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Yeah I'm not feeling optimistic about this team at all. No cap space, limited draft picks, no job security for coaches, needs all over the team. Not looking bright for next year

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

[quote name='Cyberjag' timestamp='1359479337' post='2118171']
Saying things like "replace people with quality players" and "draft people who will contribute" do little for me. I can't imagine a GM who wouldn't attempt to do both, and neither is easily judged in the short term.

I like the idea of replacing the scouting staff, but he can't do that right away because the current crop already has all their research done, so he will at least need to wait until after free agency and the draft to begin moving there.

Contract restructuring and generating a more cap-friendly set of commitments is something he can probably start doing in the next month. It would be nice to see that happen asap.
[/quote]


DWill will/should likely be a June 1 cut, Stewarts deal is so new the dead money would be really rough I think.
Gross needs a restructure.
Beason needs a MAJOR restructure. If we trade him we get nailed with another cap hit.

Hardy needs to be talked to about what he is wanting in the future and what we are willing to give. If the #'s don't work, trade him for picks.

Future contracts need smart shape and structure, reward budding talent early to save money, cut losses quickly to repair the damage faster. How long did we wait for Everrette Brown to become something ? We let some good roll players walk to give him a spot, same for armanti, etc.

We need a reliable kicker.

I want a Draft then FA focus on Linemen, Defensive and Offensive. Better lines make everything else better.

I want a FA then Draft focus on playmaker/skill positions. CB/S/WR/TE/KR/PR all could use competition at the position. KR/PR guy might be here, if someone shows him to not fumble.

Invest in your foundation. Poach some up and coming scouts. Add talent to the Front Office.








All of these things are predicated towards the idea this organization wants to win a SuperBowl.
Sadly I'm not so sure about that anymore.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

on the whole, there's not much that he can do to make me feel better about the 2013 season. it's in rivera's hands. that's where my lack of trust and hope lies.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

Come out and say "It was all a joke guys. We aren't really going into the season with Rivera leading the charge, and Shula calling plays".

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted · Report post

keep AE?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites