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#21 Kurb

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:56 PM

Saying things like "replace people with quality players" and "draft people who will contribute" do little for me. I can't imagine a GM who wouldn't attempt to do both, and neither is easily judged in the short term.

I like the idea of replacing the scouting staff, but he can't do that right away because the current crop already has all their research done, so he will at least need to wait until after free agency and the draft to begin moving there.

Contract restructuring and generating a more cap-friendly set of commitments is something he can probably start doing in the next month. It would be nice to see that happen asap.



DWill will/should likely be a June 1 cut, Stewarts deal is so new the dead money would be really rough I think.
Gross needs a restructure.
Beason needs a MAJOR restructure. If we trade him we get nailed with another cap hit.

Hardy needs to be talked to about what he is wanting in the future and what we are willing to give. If the #'s don't work, trade him for picks.

Future contracts need smart shape and structure, reward budding talent early to save money, cut losses quickly to repair the damage faster. How long did we wait for Everrette Brown to become something ? We let some good roll players walk to give him a spot, same for armanti, etc.

We need a reliable kicker.

I want a Draft then FA focus on Linemen, Defensive and Offensive. Better lines make everything else better.

I want a FA then Draft focus on playmaker/skill positions. CB/S/WR/TE/KR/PR all could use competition at the position. KR/PR guy might be here, if someone shows him to not fumble.

Invest in your foundation. Poach some up and coming scouts. Add talent to the Front Office.








All of these things are predicated towards the idea this organization wants to win a SuperBowl.
Sadly I'm not so sure about that anymore.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:13 PM

on the whole, there's not much that he can do to make me feel better about the 2013 season. it's in rivera's hands. that's where my lack of trust and hope lies.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:21 PM

Come out and say "It was all a joke guys. We aren't really going into the season with Rivera leading the charge, and Shula calling plays".

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

keep AE?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:32 PM

Honestly nothing, nor do I expext anything. It's done, cut the losses and rebuild. Cam will be in year 5-6 before this team is cleaned up from this mess. No dt talent, no wr talent past smith, old and injury plagued ol. No s talent, little cb talent past gamble. Very little to do, but cut your losses and start building toward 2015-2016 season.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

Honestly nothing, nor do I expext anything. It's done, cut the losses and rebuild. Cam will be in year 5-6 before this team is cleaned up from this mess. No dt talent, no wr talent past smith, old and injury plagued ol. No s talent, little cb talent past gamble. Very little to do, but cut your losses and start building toward 2015-2016 season.


Doesn't take long to rebuild in the NFL....if you do it right.

No reason Carolina can't be competitive in 2013 (have been every year w/ Cam, it is just a play here or there too often).....and be legit in 2014.

WR looks to be the weak area if looking ahead at 2014 since we will have to pass on this decent crop of FA WRs this year. You can find bodies for most spots but a #1 WR doesn't just fall off a tree.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

There've certainly been a lot of disagreements around here regarding the Panthers' offseason activities to date. Notably, the decision to keep Rivera before hiring a GM, and then the subsequent choices for the OC and ST coach have made for collections of long threads.

Recent news suggests that Gettleman wasn't willing to offer any of the new coaches contracts that extended past next year. And it's almost common knowledge that Rivera's gone then if he doesn't win. Rumors and tweets have also floated around that there's a lame duck atmosphere starting to emerge, similar to that of 2010. Note that I'm not saying there is, but given the actions by the Front Office so far it's understandable how some people may think that. And Gettleman is almost getting a pass on his first year, because of the Rivera decision, so there's no immediate pressure on him.

As another poster has already pointed out, because of cap issues we're likely to lose some talent. So as of now it's likely that we're going into next season with downgrades in talent, in coaching, and with a staff that has no job security. Hardly a winning formula, right?

So here's the real question here. What does Gettleman have to do in the next few months to convince you that he intends to win next year, and isn't just building for 2014 and beyond? And be realistic, ok? We're not signing a zillion high priced free agents, we just don't have the money. So within reason, what can he do to show you he means business?


Simply, I want gettleman to prove and show to us that he really is a different and more effective GM than Hurnia ever was. He can show us that IMO by changing how we address the offseason in terms of our draft picks (addressing the lines early!) and becoming more effective in free agency, even though he'll obviously be limited due to the cal situation (FA was his specialty with the giants, of course). Also, prove that he really meant what he said about evaluating and building the roster unemotionally in his intro press conference. And finally, don't get desperate when draft day comes along! Being aggressive in the draft doesn't also have to mean being stupid, either. All in all, even if we don't have stellar results this year, show us signs that you're willing to stray away from hurney's flawed philosophy in regards to the draft and FA, to provide us hope in the future.

Also, show me where it suggests that it was actually gettleman behind the one year contract offers? All I read was it that it was the panthers in general who were offering the one year deals? Not saying he wasnt the one behind them.. And correct me if im wrong but I found no where in any reports that suggest it was specifically him behind the offers... And where were the rumors or tweets about the "lame duck" feel around the facility originated? JW cuz I never saw them and I would like to see them, thanks!

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:48 PM

if he can sell the idea to those high priced vets to restructure, thats the first step

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

I think we bring in a vet QB if Anderson leaves. We should cut Pickles and keep Edwards for 3rd QB. Cut Gamble,
restructure Dwill and trade Stewart who has more trade value for more picks or a quality player of need (H. Nicks).
Cut Hangman , Nakamura, Martin and tell Beason to restructure his contract and play another position (not mlb)
or try to trade him. Draft BPA (OL or DL) with the first. 2nd round draft whichever is not chosen in the first. After that take best player available which fits our needs.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:18 PM

Every time some advocates Edwards staying I want to kick them in the face.


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