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Moss claims he is the GOAT

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Strongly disagree, but he could have been. The GOAT doesnt have the seasons he had in Oakland and he is proof that QB's make wr's more than the other way around. I recall the playoff game against Philly when he was still with Minn, he couldnt have hustled any less that game.

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put Moss with HoF QB's his entire career and this isnt a discussion

Moss had 1 future HoF QB he played with in Brady and he broke some of the best season records for WR's.

Give Jerry rice all the QB's Moss had to deal with and his stats would have plummeted badly.

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[quote name='panthernation23' timestamp='1359955823' post='2123756']
put Moss with HoF QB's his entire career and this isnt a discussion

Moss had 1 future HoF QB he played with in Brady and he broke some of the best season records for WR's.

Give Jerry rice all the QB's Moss had to deal with and his stats would have plummeted badly.
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Randall Cunningham is no scrub
Nor was Daunte Culpepper, he held a few NFL records before he got injured (completion % most notably)
Then Tom Brady.

Don't make excuses for him. Jerry Rice is the Goat. And it's not close. Moss didn't give his all all the time. That's why there is no discussion and Jerry Rice is the GOAT.

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[quote name='Falcons1stPanthers2nd' timestamp='1359983006' post='2123971']
Randall Cunningham is no scrub
Nor was Daunte Culpepper, he held a few NFL records before he got injured (completion % most notably)
Then Tom Brady.

Don't make excuses for him. Jerry Rice is the Goat. And it's not close. Moss didn't give his all all the time. That's why there is no discussion and Jerry Rice is the GOAT.
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he played with Cunningham 1 year before he retired at like the age of 50, culpepper indeed was a scrub ( ok he had 1 good year cause of Moss, when he didnt have Moss, well he became a 3rd string QB).

There's a reason WR's will quit on terrible QB's, example Smith & Clausen.

Give Moss HoF QB's his entire career and he blows out Rice's numbers

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[quote name='panthernation23' timestamp='1359987868' post='2124064']


he played with Cunningham 1 year before he retired at like the age of 50, culpepper indeed was a scrub ( ok he had 1 good year cause of Moss, when he didnt have Moss, well he became a 3rd string QB).

There's a reason WR's will quit on terrible QB's, example Smith & Clausen.

Give Moss HoF QB's his entire career and he blows out Rice's numbers
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Maybe, maybe not. If he wasn't such a smug prick he probably would have anyways.

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The "Greatest of all Time" doesn't finish a Super Bowl with only two receptions, the longest of which benefited heavily from a blown coverage.

Ravens didn't even need to double Moss.

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That goat sure does got a purdy mouth!

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[quote name='Mr. Scot' timestamp='1360000176' post='2124425']
The "Greatest of all Time" doesn't finish a Super Bowl with only two receptions, the longest of which benefited heavily from a blown coverage.

Ravens didn't even need to double Moss.
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Do you consider Rice the greatest WR? If so, did teams double up Rice in his later years?
Also, Rice didn't finish out his career with great stats either.

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Can you make an argument for Moss being the greatest ever outside of his physical talents?

Does he own the record book?

Has he been the MVP of a Super Bowl?

Has he even been someone that teams coveted over the past several years?

The only argument Moss has going for him is his physical talent, and maybe if he'd have played that to his fullest instead of "playing when he wanted to" there'd be an argument for him.

But there isn't.

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[quote name='AggieLean.' timestamp='1360017605' post='2124858']
Do you consider Rice the greatest WR? If so, did teams double up Rice in his later years?
Also, Rice didn't finish out his career with great stats either.
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8 1000 yard seasons after the age of 30

Moss.....3. All with Brady throwing the ball

And Rice put up 1000 yards at the age of 40 lol.

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