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The Rivera-Cam Regime: 2 years and 32 games in

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I want to hear your honest non-fanboy opinions on the Rivera-Cam era so far.

Things to possibly answer:

-What's your favorite win
-Describe your mood about the team with keywords
-Rate it out of 10
-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition
-Worst Loss
-Favorite draft pick
-Most memorable moment
-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?

...I think you get the picture

and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?

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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-What's your favorite win [b]2012[/b] [b]Falcons at home[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Describe your mood about the team with keywords [b]Lackluster[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Rate it out of 10 [b]6[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition [b]Least: Naka. Favorite: Olsen[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Worst Loss: [b]Chiefs[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Favorite draft pick: [b]Keek[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Most memorable moment: [b]Hardy mouthing off after Falcons game[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? [b]No[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? [b]Approve...barely[/b][/background][/font][/color]

I pressed the spacebar ready to edit your list and it submitted the post. That was weird. :blink:
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-What's your favorite win - [b]this year beating the Falcons at home[/b]

-Describe your mood about the team with keywords -[b] Timid hopefulness[/b]

-Rate it out of 10 - [b]3.5[/b]

-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition - [b]Olsen, Brick hands Murphy EDIT: HOW COULD I FORGET NAKAMURA. I think with a few months of training I could play safety better than him, literally. [/b]

-Worst Loss - [b]Falcons this past year[/b]

-Favorite draft pick - [b]Keek, see [/b][url="http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/71101-cary-kollins-is-officially-on-the-keek-ly-bandwagon/page__hl__%2Bcary+%2Bkollins+%2Bbandwagon"]http://www.carolinah...lins +bandwagon[/url]

-Most memorable moment - [b]Cam's 70+ yard TD rush against the Failcons[/b]

-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? - [b]quite possibly[/b]


and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? - [b]Firing Hurney was a good first step...[/b]

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not a fan of it because of rivera. other than that it was a solid start.

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[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-What's your favorite win [b](2011-2012 Season) Carolina Panthers 48 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 [/b][/background][/font][/color]
[background=rgb(242, 242, 242)][font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]-Describe your mood about the team with keywords [b]Disappointed but Optimistic[/b] [/color][/font][/background]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Rate it out of 10 [b]Umm I'm guessing you mean the favorite win? That would be a 10 [/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition [b]Favorite: Greg Olsen Least Favorite: Hauriki Nakimura[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Worst Loss [b]Atlanta Falcons 30 Carolina Panthers 28 [/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Favorite draft pick [b]Cam Newton[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Most memorable moment [b]Hardy Trash Talking the Falcons[/b][/background][/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? [b]Time Will Tell.....[/b][/background][/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]...I think you get the picture[/background][/font][/color]

[background=rgb(242, 242, 242)][font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? [/color][/font][b][font="helvetica, arial, sans-serif"][color="#282828"]Approve of the promotions of Dorsey, Prohel disaprove of the promotion of Mike Shula (for right now). Approve of bringing back Jim Skipper and the Gettleman hire. [/color][/font][/b][/background]

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[b]-What's your favorite win?[/b] 2012 chargers

[b]-Describe your mood about the team with keywords?[/b] Positive/Excited/Hopeful

[b]-Rate it out of 10[/b] 6

[b]-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition [/b]Shockey/Mare

[b]-Worst Loss[/b] 2012 falcons

[b]-Favorite draft pick [/b]Luke

[b]-Most memorable moment [/b]Captain dunking after a pick 6

[b]-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? [/b]No

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[quote name='kahakai' timestamp='1359653520' post='2120136']
I want to hear your honest non-fanboy opinions on the Rivera-Cam era so far.

Things to possibly answer:

-What's your favorite win
-Describe your mood about the team with keywords
-Rate it out of 10
-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition
-Worst Loss
-Favorite draft pick
-Most memorable moment
-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?

...I think you get the picture

and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?
[/quote]

Luke is my hero and I love DJ Campbell.

Thought Naka was going to be special...

Most memorable moment is a tie between Thomas Davis being a force once again and seeing Luke play his guts out all year long. Both of them out there was such a wow factor for me...really proud of our guys.

For me it boils down to these two games... week 2 and week 3 of this yr. We come home and win a great game after a loss to tampa and then on primtime we get throttled. My expectations for this season were through the roof, but that was tempered and with good reason. We had so much to learn about ourselves and getting rid of Marty might have been the key factor in turning this ship around. I love Gmagic and Rivera has the support of the team. Let this team gel and come out next year with a sense of purpose and togetherness that will infect the fan base and take over the league. I think we will.

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[size=4]-[i]What's your favorite win: [/i][b]Our last game against New Orleans[/b][/size]
[i]-Describe your mood about the team with keywords[/i][i]: [/i][b]Disappointed/Pissed[/b]
[i]-Rate it out of 10[/i][i]: [/i][b]3[/b]
[i]-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition[/i][i]: [/i][b]Olsen/Naanee[/b]
[i]-Worst Loss[/i][i]: [/i][b]Giants on National TV[/b]
[i]-Favorite draft pick[/i][i]: [/i][b]Cam[/b]
[i]-Most memorable moment[/i][i]: [/i][b]The Arizona game in 2011. We knew we had finally found our QB.[/b]
[i]-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? [/i][b]Yes[/b]

[i][size=4]Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? [/size][/i][b][size=4]There is much to like about our roster and it's ability going forward. However, our team is going to be held back by a very inexperienced coaching staff, lead by a HC that I don't believe in. Further, I don't believe JR is the same man after his illness, and he is not making the right moves as an owner.[/size][/b]
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I want to hear your honest non-fanboy opinions on the Rivera-Cam era so far.

Things to possibly answer:

-What's your favorite win
First Saint game this year when I still had hope.

-Describe your mood about the team with keywords

I'll assume by team you mean the entire panther organization.

Repetitive failure (tired), familiar failures (worn out), devastating (seemingly hopeless with this coach and owner), oblivious (more towards our team's FO), potential (why I am so upset over all this BS), young, disorganized, leadership pretty non-existent (still building), SLOW, falling behind

ok positives in there only potential....hmmm maybe....nope can't think of much...potential of a better future is really all we have.

-Rate it out of 10

Rate the team out of ten?
Players: 7
Coaching and FO: 3
But they rely on one another...


-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition
Olsen, worst = Naka

-Worst Loss
First Falcon game this year, I fuging hate the falcons fug the falcons

-Favorite draft pick
Cam

-Most memorable moment
Best: Cam to smitty pass over the left shoulder in the corner of the end zone...I was a believer after that. Not many positive memorable moments. Jacksonville last year was awesome.
Worst: Rivera's dumbass onside kick this year

-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?
I really hope so.

...I think you get the picture

and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?
DISAPPROVE.

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-What's your favorite win (hard to pick just one from all those moral victories)
-Describe your mood about the team with keywords (fire Ron Rivera)
-Rate it out of 10 (13/32)
-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition (Olsen/Rivera)
-Worst Loss (between the Chiefs last season and the Vikings in '11. Maybe give the edge to the Chiefs game since we probably would've beaten the Vikings if our kicker wasn't retarded)
-Favorite draft pick (are you kidding me?)
-Most memorable moment (any of the 10,000 instances the camera panned over to the sideline and captured Ron with that signature glazed over look in his eyes; or when we fired Hurney for being retarded)
-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? (Wish 2012 was his last season)
Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? Well it takes being competent in three positions to be able to compete in this league. Good GM, good coach, good QB. So far we've got 2/3, hopefully 3/3 when we replace Ron next season.

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[quote]What's your favorite win[/quote]

Falcons

[quote]Describe your mood about the team with keywords[/quote]

Remove Rivera

[quote]Rate it out of 10[/quote]

3/10

[quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(242, 242, 242)]Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition[/background][/font][/color][/quote]

Olsen/Rivera

[quote]Worst Loss[/quote]

Oh boy, were the fug do we begin? I would have to say Giants.

[quote]Favorite draft pick[/quote]

Luke Keachly (still can't spell his last name correctly)

[quote]Most memorable moment[/quote]

Hurney being fired

[quote]Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?[/quote]

Yes

[quote]Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?[/quote]

Disapprove

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I think Rivera/the Panthers are the worst thing that could have happened to Cam. Imagine if he was on a real team, like Kaepernick is.

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What do I think about the Rivera and Cam regime. I think both of them have learned a lot over the two years and have each made a ton of mistakes. But I am optimistic that now have the proper skills sets to win. Cam knows what he needs to do to win and how he needs to be a leader on the team. Rivera knows that playing not to lose ensures you will. I know that 6-10 and 7-9 are nothing to get excited about but they are 4 more wins than Fox had in his last 2 years and he was coming off a 12-4 season in 2008. Rivera on the other hand inherited a 2-14 team that every agreed was largely devoid of any real talent.

We have more talent on the team than when Rivera inherited it after Richardson gutted it. We have a coaching staff that is actually pretty solid and we have a new GM who is by all accounts a great judge of talent and has a solid reputation.

The Rivera era has been a transition between the worse team in the NFl by far to one that can contend in any game and is a tough out. But for 5 or 6 plays in 2012, we could have easily made the playoffs.

As for those who don't believe in Rivera, all I will say is that I am glad you are fans and not players. Ultimately it matters if they believe in the coach where as for fans it really doesn't matter.

No I didn't copy and paste all the suggested responses since most things were covered already and I wanted to talk about other things.

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[quote name='Keith Moons Liver' timestamp='1359673461' post='2120431']
I think Rivera/the Panthers are the worst thing that could have happened to Cam. Imagine if he was on a real team, like Kaepernick is.
[/quote]

I remember when Cam came out everyone said that he would need 2 or 3 years to be ready to play. Rivera and Chud tailored their offense to meet his skills and without an off-season he had an unprecedented year.
If he had played for San Francisco he would have sat the bench of 22 of his 32 games and really made the Superbowl based on the rest of the team who came within a play of making it last year. He would be further behind than he is right now. Kapernick may be in the Superbowl but I don't think he is as complete a quarterback as Newton.

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[b]What's your favorite win: [/b]Tie between the Saints and Falcons games this year

[b]Describe your mood about the team with keywords:[/b] Cautious optimism

[b]Rate it out of 10:[/b] So far, a five

[b]Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition:[/b] Favorite - Greg Olsen, Mike Tolbert; Least - Olindo Mare'

[b]Worst Loss:[/b] tied between the Bears and Falcons this season; Chiefs hurt too

[b]Favorite draft pick: [/b]Favorite - Kuechly; Least - Brandon Hogan (Lawrence Wilson too)

[b]Most memorable moment:[/b] Hardy post Falcons game; Kuechly's pick vs the Raiders

[b]Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?[/b] Unknown

[b]Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?[/b] Like the new GM, team looked good at season's end; so yes (for now)

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-What's your favorite win: Atl @ Car

-Describe your mood about the team with keywords: Optimistic

-Rate it out of 10: 7

-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition - Least Tolbert - too many chefs in kitchen in retrospect and should have brought in a FA that mattered if going after someone legit. Favorite - Dwan - he actually had talent despite not being great we have had absolutely none at DT

-Worst Loss - @ Atl this year

-Favorite draft pick: tie with Cam and Luke

-Most memorable moment: Newton debut

-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? No


and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? Approve overall. Poor job of transitioning out of Fox/Hurney era though. 2010 draft/contracts/etc should of never occured bc Hurney should of left with Fox....Hurney was a big handicap for a green Rivera in regard to what he did with the 2010 draft, 2010 contracts, and poor postion he put franchise
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Things to possibly answer:

-What's your favorite win: the first saints win of last season
-Describe your mood about the team with keywords: disappointed
-Rate it out of 10: 4
-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition Tolbert/Naka
-Worst Loss: Chicago Bears
-Favorite draft pick: Cam Newton
-Most memorable moment: an injured cam coming back in to finish off the W against the saints.
-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? No

and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? Hmmm, tough question.

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-What's your favorite win

vs Tampa 2011
First home win I've attended in years.

-Describe your mood about the team with keywords

I feel like I'm in a falconhood.

-Rate it out of 10

e^x

(x= how willing Ole Riverboat Ronnie is to stay out of the team's way.)

-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition

Favorite - Greg Olsen

Least Favorite - (Does re-signing JStew count?) Mare (see -Worst Loss)

-Worst Loss

vs Vikings 2011
First game of the Newton era... SMDH Ugh...

[quote] But after Longwell's field goal gave the Vikings the 24-21 lead, Newton seemed poised to lead a memorable comeback. He completed a 44-yard pass to Brandon LaFell on fourth-and-15 to reach Vikings territory. The Panthers appeared to reach the 7 on a first-down run by Newton, but the play was called back because of a holding penalty on Steve Smith.

"I got a few texts saying already in the HD it didn't look too bad," Smith said of the official's call. "For a 70-year-old man gimping down the field, I guess that's what he saw."

Newton went back to Smith on the next play, but he was stopped short of the first down. Mare's kick sailed wide left and the home crowd groaned before heading to the exits[/quote]

-Favorite draft pick

Favorite - Uncle Luke (Sorry Mr. Boogey)

Least Favorite - Sione "I'm soft like seafoam" Fua (Special shoutout to you Mr. Nortman)

-Most memorable moment

Seeing the Kraken released. (Pick a game)

-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season?

If x < e, then yes,
If x > e, then no.

-Approve or Disapprove of our current direction?

If x < e, then disapprove,
If x > e, then approve.

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[quote name='panthers55' timestamp='1359673467' post='2120432']
What do I think about the Rivera and Cam regime. I think both of them have learned a lot over the two years and have each made a ton of mistakes. But I am optimistic that now have the proper skills sets to win. Cam knows what he needs to do to win and how he needs to be a leader on the team. Rivera knows that playing not to lose ensures you will. I know that 6-10 and 7-9 are nothing to get excited about but they are 4 more wins than Fox had in his last 2 years and he was coming off a 12-4 season in 2008. Rivera on the other hand inherited a 2-14 team that every agreed was largely devoid of any real talent.

We have more talent on the team than when Rivera inherited it after Richardson gutted it. We have a coaching staff that is actually pretty solid and we have a new GM who is by all accounts a great judge of talent and has a solid reputation.

The Rivera era has been a transition between the worse team in the NFl by far to one that can contend in any game and is a tough out. But for 5 or 6 plays in 2012, we could have easily made the playoffs.

[b]As for those who don't believe in Rivera, all I will say is that I am glad you are fans and not players. Ultimately it matters if they believe in the coach where as for fans it really doesn't matter. [/b]

No I didn't copy and paste all the suggested responses since most things were covered already and I wanted to talk about other things.
[/quote]


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2 years and 32 games in.

Rivera hasn't utilized the roster to it's best advantage, Cam is no exception.

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[quote name='Kevin Greene' timestamp='1359691440' post='2120626']
2 years and 32 games in.

Rivera hasn't utilized the roster to it's best advantage, Cam is no exception.
[/quote]

How much do you think Rivera dictates who plays on Sunday and how players rotate in versus the coordinators who call the plays and send the players in on every sequence.

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[quote name='panthers55' timestamp='1359691690' post='2120631']

How much do you think Rivera dictates who plays on Sunday and how players rotate in versus the coordinators who call the plays and send the players in on every sequence.
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[img]http://myonesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the-buck-stops-here.jpg[/img]

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[quote name='Kevin Greene' timestamp='1359692352' post='2120638']


[img]http://myonesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/the-buck-stops-here.jpg[/img]
[/quote]

You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask you who was ultimately responsible. I think that Rivera would gladly fall on the sword and take ultimate responsibility. That is one of the things I like about him. The question was who do you think was more responsible for how the players were used, Rivera or the coordinators who called the plays and rotated the players in. The follow-up is whether Chud leaving means we might use our running backs better which could make Cam and the offense even better than last year.

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-What's your favorite win:[b]Beating the crap out of Tampa Bay on Christmas Eve last year (my entire family is either Panthers or Bucs fans so this was especially fun)[/b]
-Describe your mood about the team with keywords: [b]Apathetic[/b]
-Rate it out of 10: [b]4.8[/b]
-Favorite/Least Favorite acquisition: [b]Olsen/Murphy[/b]
-Worst Loss: [b]TIE: @Chicago, Tampa Bay, @Atl[/b]
-Favorite draft pick: [b]Keek[/b]
-Most memorable moment: [b]Captain's TD this year against TB (my bro and my first regular season home game)[/b]
-Will 2013 be Rivera's last season? [b]No[/b]

and the big one: Approve or Disapprove of our current direction? [b]Ask me in three months[/b]

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[quote name='panthers55' timestamp='1359692890' post='2120640']
You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask you who was ultimately responsible. I think that Rivera would gladly fall on the sword and take ultimate responsibility. That is one of the things I like about him. The question was who do you think was more responsible for how the players were used, Rivera or the coordinators who called the plays and rotated the players in. The follow-up is whether Chud leaving means we might use our running backs better which could make Cam and the offense even better than last year.
[/quote]

I answered as far as I'm concerned. ;)

As to the suggestion perhaps the running backs weren't used correctly the last two seasons.
Not a half, a game or even a 3 or 4 game stretch possibly to Cam and the team's detriment.
I can find nothing more damning to Rivera as a head coach

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