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#31 rayzor

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:38 PM

oh....and lol at the notion that if you're critical of the team you're a fairweather fan.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:38 PM

rayzor is correct...you guys ever been to BOA in the playoffs? its fuging heaven

unfortunatley, it's a rare occurance. Fans are mostly born from winning, not just because they live here, or near, or like the colors of the uniforms. Winning gives new poeple a reason to be a fan...us old fans can remember but really we don't have a good reason, not latley (living in NC isn't considered a good reason IMO, cause if I moved I'd still be a panther fan). thanks to JR.

there are some exceptions, like a longer histor but its not hard to notice the most loyal fans come from the msot successful franchises in terms of WINNING.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:40 PM

That may be true, but how does that explain all the white trash redneck goofy ass Cowboys fans I often see?

They had classier ancestors lol

Actually I think that story accounts for mostly black Cowboys fans of the area. Most are probably just 90s bandwagon holdovers who don't watch games but just want to claim a team.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

oh....and lol at the notion that if you're critical of the team you're a fairweather fan.


Agree in general , but it depends somewhat on the criticism.

Informed criticism I have no issue with. People who have nothing more to offer than "this team sucks, fire everybody and cut the whole team" annoy me

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

Nope. Won't happen, you aren't going to get STEELERS fans to change alliances for the fuging Carolina Panthers. There have been winning seasons where the stadium is still filled with other teams' fans.

I was pretty much a diehard Steelers fan, but once I learned the home state was getting a team, especially one that represented all of Carolina, I was on it. I held onto the Steelers for a bit, but my natural inclination to support the home just gradually took over---without me even being aware of it. I'm Panther down.

win more games, have more fans. its as easy as that.

how many people want to back a team with only 4 winning seasons ever and no winning seasons since '08?

if this team wants more loyal fans, earn them. want to win more fans then you have to win more games...pull off more games that matter and more winning seasons.


Perhaps, but I don't buy it. Even in the days leading to the Super Bowl, Panthers fans seemed just as scarce. We just got some shitty, backwards-ass thinking fans. Even Bills fans outdo the Panthers'.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:46 PM

how did the browns get their fans? where do they come from?

panthers dropped into the middle of an area with fans from a lot of different teams and an area that draws people from other areas who are already loyal to other teams.

panthers are going to have to rely on an originally small base of fans slowly creating generational fans and converting fans of other teams. to convert fans, you have to give them a reason beyond, you know....just being here. you win over fans by being something we haven't been...a winning team. create hype by winning and then building on momentum the next year. its a snowball effect. you get rolling and the small snowball of fans gets bigger.


and all that hating on fairweather fans going on is ridiculous. most loyal fans start out as fairweather fans and picking up fairweather fans isn't a bad thing because it usually means something good is going on.


Most fans start with fans actually pulling for the team where they are from, not latching on to a team that their great, great grandfather came from.

So cool the Browns USED to be a good team. The Lions have never had a Super Bowl team and still have a more passionate fan base then us, hell, there are three teams in Florida and Jacksonville still has a more loyal fan base because the people in Jacksonville at least realize that they live in the city of Jacksonville therefore the Jags are their football team.

The only fan base that has truly migrated to the Carolina's is the Steelers. A lot of the Redskins fans converted to Panther fans when the Panthers first got here or when the Redskins started going on their rapid decline. I was born in Charlotte and now the city as well as anyone. If you want to see a real fanbase. Come up to Raleigh a few times and go to a Hurricanes game (Hurricanes fans could easily be a fan of the Florida teams or Washington, but no they recognize their roots and pull for the team from where they originate, that's all I ask from Panther fans).

You can go to regular season Hurricanes games and they outdo any enthusiasm that and Panther game has ever had (including playoff games).
Sorry for any grammatical errors, I'm on my phone.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:47 PM

oh....and lol at the notion that if you're critical of the team you're a fairweather fan.


Constructive criticism is fine but criticism with no basis (which is most of the criticism from this fan base) is absurd.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

wow the "woe is me" in this thread is hysterical.

our fans just suck. nothing we can do. boo hoo.

win games, win fans. it's that easy.

disagree all you want, but that's the way it is.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

Never disagreed that you can't gain more fans by winning, but that is not the characteristic of a LOYAL FAN BASE.

First look up the definition of loyal, then try to keep your current argument. The point is, you can't, it becomes a fallacy.

Loyal fans are those who are there no matter the circumstance (Browns, Bills, Chiefs, Lions) For the most part it seems like everyone on this forum is pretty loyal, but unfortunately our stadium holds more than 10,000 people.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

wow the "woe is me" in this thread is hysterical.

our fans just suck. nothing we can do. boo hoo.

win games, win fans. it's that easy.

disagree all you want, but that's the way it is.


It really is that simple (and realistically, that difficult).

Call people 'bandwagon' if you want to, but that's the nature of things.

Should also improve as the next generation - those who grew up with the Panthers from the start - gets older and has kids of their own.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:03 PM

Never disagreed that you can't gain more fans by winning, but that is not the characteristic of a LOYAL FAN BASE.

First look up the definition of loyal, then try to keep your current argument. The point is, you can't, it becomes a fallacy.

Loyal fans are those who are there no matter the circumstance (Browns, Bills, Chiefs, Lions) For the most part it seems like everyone on this forum is pretty loyal, but unfortunately our stadium holds more than 10,000 people.

again, i'm asking where did they get those loyal fans? how did they become loyal?

you have to build loyalty. it doesn't just come to you. it's a brand. you have to build brand loyalty and to do that you have to give them a reason beyond just being there. for some it will work, but not for the majority and that's ok.

if you are a new player in the market, you're going to have to be competing with other loyalties and most aren't just going to jump off their current bandwagon because there's another player in town. some will, but not most. most will need to be convinced that they need to leave their team and how do you do that? be having a better payoff. by winning more games and by having a better shot at the playoffs.

we don't have a lot of loyal fans because this team hasn't done enough to win fans of other teams over.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

It really is that simple (and realistically, that difficult).

Call people 'bandwagon' if you want to, but that's the nature of things.

Should also improve as the next generation - those who grew up with the Panthers from the start - gets older and has kids of their own.


Agree %100 with your last paragraph. However the athlete in me disagrees with the first two paragraphs. Sure I want to have a lot of fans, but there is a special place for LOYAL fans because they are essentially apart of the organization and share in the success and the struggles.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:08 PM

I haven't studied this data closely (not that I care that much), but by using a 50-mile radius, they cut off fans from Spartanburg and Columbia. We may not account for much, but we are part of the fan base.


Including more of SC would actually make it much worse.

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

Can't compare fan loyalty to player loyalty because one gets paid and the other does not. Scot made a great point that the next generation of Panther fans will be vital to the fanbase and in my opinion it's ultimate residence in NC. Once again the Lions have struggled mightily but have built there fan base by generations. All I ask is that Panther fans do the same and don't jump ship at the first sign of sinking. Share in the good times and in the bad.

Go Panthers!!!

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Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:10 PM

Agree %100 with your last paragraph. However the athlete in me disagrees with the first two paragraphs. Sure I want to have a lot of fans, but there is a special place for LOYAL fans because they are essentially apart of the organization and share in the success and the struggles.


I can understand that, but that sort of loyalty really does have to be earned.

It can be earned quickly by winning, or over time by succeeding generations, but either way you have to earn it.


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