again, i'm asking where did they get those loyal fans? how did they become loyal?
Never disagreed that you can't gain more fans by winning, but that is not the characteristic of a LOYAL FAN BASE.
First look up the definition of loyal, then try to keep your current argument. The point is, you can't, it becomes a fallacy.
Loyal fans are those who are there no matter the circumstance (Browns, Bills, Chiefs, Lions) For the most part it seems like everyone on this forum is pretty loyal, but unfortunately our stadium holds more than 10,000 people.
you have to build loyalty. it doesn't just come to you. it's a brand. you have to build brand loyalty and to do that you have to give them a reason beyond just being there. for some it will work, but not for the majority and that's ok.
if you are a new player in the market, you're going to have to be competing with other loyalties and most aren't just going to jump off their current bandwagon because there's another player in town. some will, but not most. most will need to be convinced that they need to leave their team and how do you do that? be having a better payoff. by winning more games and by having a better shot at the playoffs.
we don't have a lot of loyal fans because this team hasn't done enough to win fans of other teams over.