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#16 GamecockSmitty4

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

I'm looking at McCollum or Oladipo with Portland's pick. This is assuming that a big is taken with our own pick.

Char pick- Noel/Bennett/Len/Zeller
Por pick- McCollum/Oladipo

or

Char pick- Bazz (please no)/McLemore
Por pick- Olynyk (please no)/Plumlee

I like that first draft. I would be happy with any of those bigs and McCollum and Oladipo could be great off the bench. I think both have the potential to become starters as well, but great off the bench if not.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

We'll have to build through the draft in 2014. That's a badddda$$$$ draft!

I'm taking some heat on this for a while but im sticking to it. If we want to win a Championship or just games in the Playoffs, Kemba at PG isnt the answer. We can use an upgrade there. Kemba is a great 6th man who change the pace of the game and give you points when needed. Overall, Kemba isn't the long term answer at PG if he doesn't improve his game dramatically.

Wishful thinking, but now if a back court of CP3, McLemore, and MKG? Of course


Oh not this again...

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:32 AM

I'm looking at McCollum or Oladipo with Portland's pick. This is assuming that a big is taken with our own pick.

Char pick- Noel/Bennett/Len/Zeller
Por pick- McCollum/Oladipo

or

Char pick- Bazz (please no)/McLemore
Por pick- Olynyk (please no)/Plumlee

I like that first draft. I would be happy with any of those bigs and McCollum and Oladipo could be great off the bench. I think both have the potential to become starters as well, but great off the bench if not.


I'm starting to like a Combo Of Alex Len with the 1st pick and Oladipo with the second 1st round pick.

#19 yasuhara2241

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:30 AM

My personal opinion is we should stay the course. I really like our young players. They play extremely hard and with a few more pieces we got a great chance to make noise. Carolina-chuck I know you want CP3 and who wouldn't but if we got him next year that would do nothing for us but make us a treadmill team and we would lose out on the potential of the 2014 draft. My hope is we stay the course and don't pick up any costly players unless it is a superstar! We shouldn't overpay just bc we are Charlotte!

My dream:

PG: Walker
SG: One of these 6 players or MKG depending on height/quickness
SF: One of the players below or MKG depending on height/strength
PF: Noel/Anthony
C: BIz


1
Posted Image Charlotte
Andrew Wiggins
6-7
200
SF
Canada
HSSr.
2
Posted Image Washington
Jabari Parker
6-8
225
SF
Duke
HSSr.
3
Posted Image Cleveland
Noah Vonleh
6-9
225
SF/PF
Indiana
HSSr.
4
Posted Image Orlando
Julius Randle
6-9
240
SF/PF
Undecided
HSSr.
5
Posted Image New Orleans
James Young
6-6
204
SG
Kentucky
HSSr.
6
Posted Image Phoenix
Andrew Harrison
6-5
215
PG/SG
Kentucky
HSS
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft


I put Biz as Center because he doesn't have good enough lateral movement to cover PFs and he goes for too many fakes. But I feel Noel can guard either position.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:39 AM

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:50 AM

Anthony Bennett + Al Jefferson = Championship

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:42 AM

Oh not this again...


I'll keep on saying it. We can have this debate till Kemba retire if you want.

Fans these days are pleased with any performance they can get. Kemba is last year Hendo and Lafell. People just want to love them.

Kemba is a kid you just have to love. Great kid! Proven player in college and won at the big stage. Though the NBA isn't the college. His size is going to hurt him here and there through out his career, especially being a two guard who is best suited as a shooting PG. He's not a polished passer like elsewhere. His size is going to hurt him bc he's going to have a tough time creating space for room to shoot. He's not Westbrook or Lillard.
This is my question: Do you think we can win a championship with Kemba?

#23 carolina-chuck

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

My personal opinion is we should stay the course. I really like our young players. They play extremely hard and with a few more pieces we got a great chance to make noise. Carolina-chuck I know you want CP3 and who wouldn't but if we got him next year that would do nothing for us but make us a treadmill team and we would lose out on the potential of the 2014 draft. My hope is we stay the course and don't pick up any costly players unless it is a superstar! We shouldn't overpay just bc we are Charlotte!

My dream:

PG: Walker
SG: One of these 6 players or MKG depending on height/quickness
SF: One of the players below or MKG depending on height/strength
PF: Noel/Anthony
C: BIz


1
Posted Image Charlotte
Andrew Wiggins
6-7
200
SF
Canada
HSSr.
2
Posted Image Washington
Jabari Parker
6-8
225
SF
Duke
HSSr.
3
Posted Image Cleveland
Noah Vonleh
6-9
225
SF/PF
Indiana
HSSr.
4
Posted Image Orlando
Julius Randle
6-9
240
SF/PF
Undecided
HSSr.
5
Posted Image New Orleans
James Young
6-6
204
SG
Kentucky
HSSr.
6
Posted Image Phoenix
Andrew Harrison
6-5
215
PG/SG
Kentucky
HSS
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft


I put Biz as Center because he doesn't have good enough lateral movement to cover PFs and he goes for too many fakes. But I feel Noel can guard either position.


I see your point. I'm just not sure if Kemba can take us all the way. Seeing CP3 and Kobe go at it was ridiculous! CP3 is a top 3-5 players in this league.

But yea I can see Kemba achieving if we surround him with player like McLemore and Wiggins. That's my dream.

Though, I'm not real sure if we'll even be up for the Wiggins discussion by then. And I hope we don't. Bc Wiggins is another 6'8 SF. What are we going to do with MKG? Spending a no.2 overall pick on a SF to come off the bench behind Wiggins? No way.

I rather we go with Julius Randle a 6'9 PF.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

I'll keep on saying it. We can have this debate till Kemba retire if you want.

Fans these days are pleased with any performance they can get. Kemba is last year Hendo and Lafell. People just want to love them.


Henderson last season: 15.1 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal per game (best season in 4-year career)
Walker this season: 17.8 points, 3.5 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 2 steals per game in his 2nd year

Kemba is a much better PG than Henderson or MKG will ever be at their respective positions. You mentioned he needs to improve "dramatically," and he already has.

You're no different than the idiots who said the Panthers needed to start Anderson last fall.

You're letting your bias against Walker cloud your judgment. You've championed the cause of drafting a PG in the 1st (Myck Kabongo) and said Jordan will sign Paul.

However, Cho and Dunlap disagree with you. Dunlap was quoted in an Observer story saying "Kemba is our QB. We are building the franchise around him."

Kemba is the franchise PG. Want more reasons?

Rajon Rondo's second season in the NBA...
10.6 points, 4 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 1.7 steals per game

I'm no longer arguing with you on your Kemba hate, because the Bobcats, myself, NBA writers, opposing coaches and players (i.e. Erik Spoelstra) and most fans agree he's the PG.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:36 AM

Henderson last season: 15.1 points, 4 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal per game (best season in 4-year career)
Walker this season: 17.8 points, 3.5 rebounds, 5.8 assists, 2 steals per game in his 2nd year

Kemba is a much better PG than Henderson or MKG will ever be at their respective positions. You mentioned he needs to improve "dramatically," and he already has.

You're no different than the idiots who said the Panthers needed to start Anderson last fall.

You're letting your bias against Walker cloud your judgment. You've championed the cause of drafting a PG in the 1st (Myck Kabongo) and said Jordan will sign Paul.

However, Cho and Dunlap disagree with you. Dunlap was quoted in an Observer story saying "Kemba is our QB. We are building the franchise around him."

Kemba is the franchise PG. Want more reasons?

Rajon Rondo's second season in the NBA...
10.6 points, 4 rebounds, 5.2 assists, 1.7 steals per game

I'm no longer arguing with you on your Kemba hate, because the Bobcats, myself, NBA writers, opposing coaches and players (i.e. Erik Spoelstra) and most fans agree he's the PG.

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Can't even compare Kema to Rondo. Different type of PG. Rondo also has very good size. A polished passer who needed to learn how to shoot, which he did. Kemba is a polished shooter who needs to learn how to pass. With Kemba size, in the future he will struggle at times in big games (playoffs, if any) to create space with bigger guys guarding him.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Kemba is 12th in the NBA in APER among all guards. He's 8th in the NBA in APER among all PG's. He averages 18 points per game on 43% shooting, 35% from 3, 80% from FT, close to 6 assists per game, and roughly 2 steals per game. He's also one of the hardest workers out on the court and is just full of intensity. Kemba has played like a top 10 PG any way you slice it... offensive or defensively. All of this while playing with the worst supporting cast of any of PG (and it's not really even close).

I'm sorry that you don't believe that Kemba can lead a team to an NBA title, but he can. Hell, he's better right now than most PG's in recent memory that have "lead" their team to an NBA title. Let's take a look at former championship teams and who their PG was.

2012 Miami Heat: Mario Chalmers: 6-2, 3.5 assists per game. Offense ran through LeBron and Wade.
2011 Dallas Mavericks: Jason Kidd: 6-4, 5.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Dirk and Jason Terry.
2010 Los Angeles Lakers: Derek Fisher, 6-1, 2.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Kobe and Gasol.
2009 Los Angeles Lakers: Derek Fisher, 6-1, 3.2 assists per game. Offense ran through Kobe and Gasol.
2008 Boston Celtics: Rajon Ronder: 6-1, 5.1 assists per game. Offense ran through the Big 3.
2007 San Antonio Spurs: Tony Parker: 6-1, 5.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Duncan / Big 3.
2006 Miami Heat: Jason Williams: 6-1, 4.9 assists per game. Offense ran through D-Wade and Shaq.

*Gary Payton was also a key PG in the 2006 Miami Heat team. He averaged 3.2 assists per game.

Will you ever put this nonsense to bed? It doesn't take a PG averaging 8+ assists per game in the NBA to win a championship. It takes multiple superstar players to win. I only see 1 PG since 2006 that has "lead" his team to a title that I would take over Kemba and that is Tony Parker. You do realize that once we put good players around Kemba that his assists will go up, right? It's honestly a wonder that Kemba is averaging close to 6 assists per game playing with the likes of MKG, Mullens, Bismack, Hakeem Warrick, Brenden Haywood, Jeff Adrien, etc. Give him a Wiggins + an Al Jefferson and then we can talk.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:51 PM

Cc just stop, Kemba has become a top 10 NBA pg. You've been destroyed in this debate by your disdain for Kemba.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:44 PM

Cc just stop, Kemba has become a top 10 NBA pg. You've been destroyed in this debate by your disdain for Kemba.


No I haven't. And please give me your top10 PG list.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 03:47 PM

Kemba is 12th in the NBA in APER among all guards. He's 8th in the NBA in APER among all PG's. He averages 18 points per game on 43% shooting, 35% from 3, 80% from FT, close to 6 assists per game, and roughly 2 steals per game. He's also one of the hardest workers out on the court and is just full of intensity. Kemba has played like a top 10 PG any way you slice it... offensive or defensively. All of this while playing with the worst supporting cast of any of PG (and it's not really even close).

I'm sorry that you don't believe that Kemba can lead a team to an NBA title, but he can. Hell, he's better right now than most PG's in recent memory that have "lead" their team to an NBA title. Let's take a look at former championship teams and who their PG was.

2012 Miami Heat: Mario Chalmers: 6-2, 3.5 assists per game. Offense ran through LeBron and Wade.
2011 Dallas Mavericks: Jason Kidd: 6-4, 5.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Dirk and Jason Terry.
2010 Los Angeles Lakers: Derek Fisher, 6-1, 2.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Kobe and Gasol.
2009 Los Angeles Lakers: Derek Fisher, 6-1, 3.2 assists per game. Offense ran through Kobe and Gasol.
2008 Boston Celtics: Rajon Ronder: 6-1, 5.1 assists per game. Offense ran through the Big 3.
2007 San Antonio Spurs: Tony Parker: 6-1, 5.5 assists per game. Offense ran through Duncan / Big 3.
2006 Miami Heat: Jason Williams: 6-1, 4.9 assists per game. Offense ran through D-Wade and Shaq.

*Gary Payton was also a key PG in the 2006 Miami Heat team. He averaged 3.2 assists per game.

Will you ever put this nonsense to bed? It doesn't take a PG averaging 8+ assists per game in the NBA to win a championship. It takes multiple superstar players to win. I only see 1 PG since 2006 that has "lead" his team to a title that I would take over Kemba and that is Tony Parker. You do realize that once we put good players around Kemba that his assists will go up, right? It's honestly a wonder that Kemba is averaging close to 6 assists per game playing with the likes of MKG, Mullens, Bismack, Hakeem Warrick, Brenden Haywood, Jeff Adrien, etc. Give him a Wiggins + an Al Jefferson and then we can talk.


The only PGs on that list that is mediocre are Williams, Chamlers? And maybe Fisher?

I hope you're kidding me about Parker, Kidd, and Rondo,

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:30 PM

The only PGs on that list that is mediocre are Williams, Chamlers? And maybe Fisher?

I hope you're kidding me about Parker, Kidd, and Rondo,


Please don't tell me that you would take 2011 Jason Kidd and 2008 Rajon Rondo over Kemba Walker. If so, I'm done.


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