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Rookie Luke Kuechly >>> Julius Peppers in his Prime


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#46 Doc Holiday

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

Absolutely, WHEN peppers played, he was amazing....but the guy wasn't an every down player. Sure he had talent, yes he made amazing plays, and yes OC would poo themselves trying to game plan for him. But I do not believe that he made the impact on every down like Keek does.

Also, here is Peppers stats. I know 2007 was one year, but it was in the middle of his "prime"
http://espn.go.com/n.../julius-peppers

Keeks stats
http://espn.go.com/n...38/luke-kuechly

you said peppers in his prime the fact you think bringing up the 07 season helps your arguement shows how shotty it is to begin with peppers from 04, 05, and 06 was probably the best defensive player in football I wouldn't even put keek top 5 right now much less #1.

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Will say as others have said a Morgan v Keek or Beason V Keek would have made more sense

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

You can't compare the two...

One has a freak physical skill set that is near unmatched.....the other's game is dictated by instincts and brains. Two polar opposites really. Luke has good measurables but they aren't what make him special

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

someone put luke's brain in a 24 year old peppers and see what the fug is up

imo peppers has squandered his opportunity to be enshrined in canton, whereas luke may end up in the HoF one day

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

Im with the other guy, Keek vs Morgan wouldve been a better comparison. Im starting to realize how young some of you dudes are. Lol

Compare him with Morgan and I'd take Luke every day of the week. Morgan just couldn't stay healthy.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:33 PM

someone put luke's brain in a 24 year old peppers and see what the fug is up

imo peppers has squandered his opportunity to be enshrined in canton, whereas luke may end up in the HoF one day


I wouldn't say Luke's brains as much as his character. Non-stop, bring it every play, fight til you're dead type approach to the game... If Peppers had that, he would have been considered one of the best defensive players in history. Much like we think of Butkus, Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White now.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

I wouldn't say Luke's brains as much as his character. Non-stop, bring it every play, fight til you're dead type approach to the game... If Peppers had that, he would have been considered one of the best defensive players in history. Much like we think of Butkus, Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White now.


All those things come from his brain.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

All those things come from his brain.


Ok, fair enough. I thought he was referring to intelligence - recognizing plays, etc.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

One thing though, put Keeks heart in Peppers and you have the best DE in history.

Put Keeks heart in Keek and you very well could have one of the best LB i a loooong time.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 10:27 PM

Pepper with a TD.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

I bet Luke won't disappear if we ever make it to the playoffs too.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:15 PM

Are you fuging kidding me with this bump. Hardy and Johnson are far better DE than Peppers, we don't miss his laziness, CJ and the Kraken bring it for 4 quarters, doesn't matter who they line up against and you better bet your ass that a TE could not block Greg Hardy 1 on 1. fug YOU JULIUS PEPPERS!



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:19 PM

btw peppers was singing a familiar tune after not producing the first two weeks

 

http://espn.go.com/b...ers-performance



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:21 PM

Luke is better for this team than Peppers ever was. Pep didn't want the fame or the pressure. Luke is begging for it. I love my new leader on this defense. I'm such a Tar Heel homer it's ridiculous so don't give me that hater bullshit. I'm looking at the two and honestly even if you dangled a pep in his prime and a rookie Luke at me I'd take Luke 10/10 times. Laugh or call me stoopid or whatever you want but Pep doesn't hold a candle to what this kid, Luke can do for us. CJ is the better end right now anyways, win/win bitches.

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:46 PM

Tell the truth peppers was not all that great he was good but not great.

 

You must be joking.



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Posted 22 September 2013 - 11:49 PM

From the article linked above...

 

But in the final two years of Peppers’ deal, his cap numbers rise. In 2014, Peppers’ cap number grows from $17.183 million to $18.183 million. In 2015, Peppers’ cap number grows to $20.683 million.

 

If you're the Bears, do you keep him at that price?




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