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#16 Brooklyn Bully

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:34 AM

Cam and it's not even close. Hell, it's not even a question.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:50 AM

It doesn't surprise me, that Panther fans that haven't had an elite qb til cam, are going to lean towards the quarterback. the Panthers have also been blessed with great linebackers. So they feel it is easy to come across stud middle linebackers. They don't know any different. Ask teams that struggle to field good defense.

#18 Frash Brastard

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:54 AM

Without a doubt, the single most important position on the field is the QB. I don't see Goodell putting a gun to our head and making us choose to take that in lieu of anything else though.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:56 AM

Oh god, late night drunk posting couldn't get any worse.

If you don't think QB is the most important position on the field you need to stop watching football.

#20 MaineManPanther

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:11 AM

A lot of people are gonna say the QB is the most important position, and it's a valid point of view.

My team building philosophy has always been that the lines should be addressed first, so I'll differ some.


But the question is not asking how to build a team. It's wether to choose a high calibur Qb or a high calibur MLB. Obviously both is optimal, but that doesn't answer the hypothetical.

I'm willing to bet you'll find quite a bit higher reg/ playoff win percentage with teams with high calibur Qb but not MLB, then the reverse.

#21 pantherclaw

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:13 AM

Oh god, late night drunk posting couldn't get any worse.

If you don't think QB is the most important position on the field you need to stop watching football.

lol

Nobody is arguing otherwise.

Still gotta have defense to win championships.

Can't argue against history.

#22 Mr. Scot

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:26 AM

Oh god, late night drunk posting couldn't get any worse.

If you don't think QB is the most important position on the field you need to stop watching football.


Ask the Saints if defense matters (and they had one of the league's best QBs)

But the question is not asking how to build a team. It's wether to choose a high calibur Qb or a high calibur MLB. Obviously both is optimal, but that doesn't answer the hypothetical.

I'm willing to bet you'll find quite a bit higher reg/ playoff win percentage with teams with high calibur Qb but not MLB, then the reverse.


Team building is my framework for the question.

Mind you, there's no way I'd minimize the importance of the QB spot, but I don't like an unbalanced approach to roster building. And like I said, I build from the lines first.

#23 Marguide

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:15 AM

QB and it's not even close.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:25 AM

Cam. Not even close. Great QB's don't come around often enough

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:52 AM

It doesn't surprise me, that Panther fans that haven't had an elite qb til cam, are going to lean towards the quarterback. the Panthers have also been blessed with great linebackers. So they feel it is easy to come across stud middle linebackers. They don't know any different. Ask teams that struggle to field good defense.


So are you trying to say we are wrong in saying QB >>>>> LB?

Newton is far more important than Kuechly. I LOVE Kuechly, don't get me wrong. But QB over MLB all day.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:54 AM

Ask the Saints if defense matters (and they had one of the league's best QBs)



Team building is my framework for the question.

Mind you, there's no way I'd minimize the importance of the QB spot, but I don't like an unbalanced approach to roster building. And like I said, I build from the lines first.


Where is ANYONE in this thread saying defense doesn't matter?

Of course it matters. Doesn't change the fact an elite QB is much more vital to a teams success than an elite MLB. How did San Fran do until they got competent QB play? Or Chicago with Urlacher? Or Washington with Fletcher (albeit he was never elite)? Or Arizona this past season with Daryl Washington? Etc.?

Nobody is saying defense is irrelevant. Merely that QB is a lot more important. And they are right.

#27 Mr. Scot

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:01 AM

Where is ANYONE in this thread saying defense doesn't matter?

Of course it matters. Doesn't change the fact an elite QB is much more vital to a teams success than an elite MLB. How did San Fran do until they got competent QB play? Or Chicago with Urlacher? Or Washington with Fletcher (albeit he was never elite)? Or Arizona this past season with Daryl Washington? Etc.?

Nobody is saying defense is irrelevant. Merely that QB is a lot more important. And they are right.


I always question individual position judgment questions in the context of a team sport, especially at the pro level.

Say you have a great QB? Cool. Stick him with mediocre receivers, a lousy offensive line and crummy backs and congrats, you have Archie Manning.

I don't see this discussion as much different than the ones where people ask if you'd rather have great covers or dominant pass rushers. You need both.

If it's discussion for the heck of it, fine, but it's not very realistic.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:18 AM

Not a good thread, threads like this make me not want to come here.

#29 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:33 AM

I can count to potatoes!

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 06:59 AM

It doesn't surprise me, that Panther fans that haven't had an elite qb til cam, are going to lean towards the quarterback. the Panthers have also been blessed with great linebackers. So they feel it is easy to come across stud middle linebackers. They don't know any different. Ask teams that struggle to field good defense.


you can't be serious.


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