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#51 Zaximus

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

It was easily a hold on the defense. When a defensive player has a handful of the receiver's jersey, and is "holding", that usually means, it's holding.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

Doesn't change the fact that the play call was not good. Actually the last 3 plays were bad.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

. . . . misread, disregard

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

John taught Jim a thing or two yesterday

i suspect that's not the first time that's happened with those two.

not unexpected that a guy with the amount of success john has had would be able to outcoach jim who, while still doing great for being just a 2nd year HC at the pro level, would be getting outcoached by guys who have been around longer.

just like a team like the ravens who have been successful for years and used to high profile games and bigger stages would be more ready and able to handle a game of that magnitude better than jim's project in it's second year.

just like a QB with only 10 starts to his name in his second year in the league would have been outplayed by a defense that has had success for years and ended up beating two sure fire HoF QBs to get to the superbowl.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

It would have been a safety either way, i don't know why this is so hard to comprehend. It would have ran same amount of time off the clock whether it was flagged or not. People are bitching about a completely irrelevant non-call.

it looks so damn obvious because it was done on purpose, because these guys have forgotten more about football than most fans will ever learn, apparently.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

Doesn't change the fact that Smith held Crabtree and got away with it.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:35 PM

ravens gave them 5 points...one on the filed goal that Fakers missed and the safety they took. lol

let them play....glad this didnt turn out like that miami-ohio nc lol YES!!

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

On the 49ers last drive when it was 3rd down did any of you see the helmet to helmet it on the 3rd down pass attempt? That should have been a flag also, the crown of the helmet clearly made contact with the WR chin. That should have been an automatic 1st down, half the distant to the goal.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:57 PM

if they threw the flag the clock would have stopped and the 9ers would have had time for a return + a hail mary. doesn't matter if the ravens were smart, the refs should have called that.


On defensive holding the refs don't stop the clock automatically. The play would have continued until the kicker ran out of bounds. The result would have been exactly the same. There was no advantage to calling the holding or not so this was a non-issue.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

Yes Smith held Crabtree and Crabtree pass interfered Smith. If they had

called the one a penalty they should have called the other and the penalties offset. At best it would have been 4th down again. This was no worse than the mugging the defensive back for Dallas committed to rob us of a first down on first down. No calls like that are the norm not unusual.


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