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#46 Doc Holiday

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

I'm sorry no coach gets exposed in the Super Bowl, because he is in the freaking Super Bowl!!

I don't even care for Jim that much for many of the reasons you pointed out but damn!! He's in the freaking Super Bowl!!!

The biggest difference between the two teams was not coaching or talent but expirence, the Ravens are a battle tested playoff team while the 49ers QB was still in his first 10 starts. It was one of the least surprising Super Bowls I've seen.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:59 AM

Rivera. . .with that defensive talent at his disposal? They would have been insane. Here, where we have holes across the board, 6-10 isn't a catastrophe. We don't have the across-the-board depth the 49ers have.

You just don't know how to contest actual analysis.


Are defense was terrible last year. You don't know they would have been insane. Your points are just conjecture. You just don't know how to give actual analysis for rational thinking people with eyes and brains on there head to contest troll

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

Baltimore had a very solid scheme for stopping the 49er offense (I suspect a fair amount of DCs will be studying that scheme this offseason), and as long as their execution was clicking they did just that. As time wore on and the older guys started getting gassed, momentum shifted the other way.

I don't think that same profile fits all the other games, but it's a recipe for a second half comeback.


They didn't stop the 49ers offense at all. In the first half when they only scored 6 points, that is true, but they only punted once, which was on their first possession and was because of the holding penalty more so than defensive prowess. The 49ers had two turnovers and two trips to the red zone that resulted in FGs instead of TDs (and one of those was because of the time on the clock) on their other 4 possessions.

That isn't schematic prowess. That is the 49ers bailing them out.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:02 PM

I'll be frank, I'm using "exposed" to antagonize a certain subset of Huddlers. You're one of the few posters on this board who's knowledgeable enough not to worship Harbaugh's every move, and while I've said repeatedly I think he's an above average coach, but I'm ripping on him this hard to prove a point that he's not the savant people make him out to be, he has significant, exploitable flaws, and that all the bitching on this board about him not coming here and the shots at Richardson are wildly undeserved.

I DESPISE the mentality that has infected this board of late that makes it OK to rip everything about the Panthers organization and praises the 49ers just because they're currently the media fancy, when anyone with a modicum of football IQ can see that squad isn't anywhere as elite as people imagine. I'll go so far as to say that I wouldn't be surprised if they take a serious step back next year. especially in a division that has gotten much tougher.


Harbaugh's a good coach. Doubt anybody would dispute that.

I need to see more consistency than two years before I'm ready to declare him great or elite. Plenty of guys start hot before fading.

The potential for him to be a perennial contender is there. However it plays out, I have a feeling it'll at least be a lot of fun to watch.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

I need to see more consistency than two years before I'm ready to declare him great or elite. Plenty of guys start hot before fading.


I like Harbaugh but I have to agree with this. Rex Ryan comes to mind.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:07 PM

They didn't stop the 49ers offense at all. In the first half when they only scored 6 points, that is true, but they only punted once, which was on their first possession and was because of the holding penalty more so than defensive prowess. The 49ers had two turnovers and two trips to the red zone that resulted in FGs instead of TDs (and one of those was because of the time on the clock) on their other 4 possessions.

That isn't schematic prowess. That is the 49ers bailing them out.


I call holding a team to six points and getting two turnovers "stopping them". The Niners looked extremely frustrated by the end of the half.

You can disagree with the terminology, but that's my take.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

I will say the Jim Harbaugh circle jerks that go on around here because we didn't get him is some of the dumber poo I see go on around here.

You would think most of them never watched football till 5 years ago.... Oh wait a sec

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

John knew all of Jim's secrets from when they used to play Tecmo bowl all of those years ago. Jim would have beaten any other coach.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:13 PM

I like Harbaugh but I have to agree with this. Rex Ryan comes to mind.


Sports fans aren't exactly known for taking the long term "big picture" approach.

That's especially evident in a forum like this where after every win we're on top of the world and after every loss we're the worst team in the league.

Guy blows it on one play? "Bench him! Cut him!" Backup makes a great play? "Why isn't he starting?" Head Coach makes a poor decision? "He's fired tomorrow!" Assistant on another team calls a great game? "We need that guy for our new head coach now!" Team has a winning season? "Perennial contenders!" Team has a losing season? "They suck! Fire everybody!"

Doubt that changes anytime soon.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:17 PM

I call holding a team to six points and getting two turnovers "stopping them". The Niners looked extremely frustrated by the end of the half.

You can disagree with the terminology, but that's my take.


But it wasn't something schematic that stopped them They moved the ball the entire first half. The turnovers were an overthrow and a fumble, not some creative defense that had them confused.

You were talking up the Ravens scheme to stop the 49ers and said that other coaches will watch that film. If they do they won't find anything other than "Lets hope they have two bad turnovers!"

You are a smart guy, you surely know the difference between a good defensive scheme stopping a team, and a team bailing out a defense with unforced turnovers and untimely penalties.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

You guys should have known this thread was coming lol.

Meanwhile, the Ravens gave up 468 yards of Offense, 31 points to the losing team, A 100yd rusher and 2-100 yard receivers on a team that lost. All Superbowl records for a team that lost.

I'd still beat on SF being there again next year or in the next couple years.

I wanted Baltimore to win as well. Heck, Matt Birk this morning said that SF's front 7 is the best he has played against in 15 years.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:22 PM

Ever wonder why some of the posters here aren't earning a living by coaching football?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

But it wasn't something schematic that stopped them They moved the ball the entire first half. The turnovers were an overthrow and a fumble, not some creative defense that had them confused.

You were talking up the Ravens scheme to stop the 49ers and said that other coaches will watch that film. If they do they won't find anything other than "Lets hope they have two bad turnovers!"

You are a smart guy, you surely know the difference between a good defensive scheme stopping a team, and a team bailing out a defense with unforced turnovers and untimely penalties.


I think they had a very good scheme. Maintain the gaps, do some mush rushing to keep the lanes clogged, don't overcommit your DEs till you see where things are headed, etc.

Now to be clear, no scheme is perfect. You still have to execute, and they did that a lot better in the first half than the second. Biggest example for me being on the left side where they only left a wide open field once or twice in the first half but were doing it constantly in the second.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

joke thread/

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

Yep, a 2nd year coach who took his team to the Super Bowl was exposed last night. fuging lol.


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