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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

The read option has been discussed ad nauseum. Needless to say it isn't going anywhere, but neither is it going to be relied upon as a base offense by any serious strategic football mind. Just like any play/scheme that is used too much, it can be figured out and stopped. Sprinkle it in here and there, and it can have game-changing effects.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

2 things that were mentioned in this thread that was 100% true

Skewed cause of our lack of success

And

Cause the 49ers lost

If those 2 things didn't happen, S.S wouldn't be saying this

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

Nobody, in college or elsewhere, use the read option as the basis of their offense. No one run it every time or even a majority of the time. It depends on what the defense is doing.


hmm... i grant you that. base set was the wrong word... but it's clear we ran it a ridiculously high percentage of the time. i'd be interested in a breakdown of percentages by snap comparing teams and formations... i'd be willing to bet we were top three in the league in the 2012 season.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

The read option has been discussed ad nauseum. Needless to say it isn't going anywhere, but neither is it going to be relied upon as a base offense by any serious strategic football mind. Just like any play/scheme that is used too much, it can be figured out and stopped. Sprinkle it in here and there, and it can have game-changing effects.


I have yet to see a team that uses the read option as "the basis of their offense".

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

So they score 29 points, only punt once, pretty much dominate the game except 2 mistakes which were a product of the offensive players not the defense, and you think the Raven's defense did a good job?

Ummm... okay.

"Hey guys, we did not force any punts, and gave up 29 points tonight because we did such a good job". LOL


Till they lost Ngata and got tired, yeah I think they did a pretty good job.

You can't put it all on offensive mistakes.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

hmm... i grant you that. base set was the wrong word... but it's clear we ran it a ridiculously high percentage of the time. i'd be interested in a breakdown of percentages by snap comparing teams and formations... i'd be willing to bet we were top three in the league in the 2012 season.



Probably. But only 4 teams even ran it on a regular basis.

The way we ran it is not the way to run it. Everyone on this board seems to be basing their opinions on the read option by the Panthers success with it this season.

Unfortunately, the Chud way of using the read option is about the worst way a team can do it.

When you are running that type of offense, the defense will dictate to you before the snap when you run a read option or not. Not the original playcall.

If you are running that type of offense to it's full potential, you may run the read option 3 or 4 times in a game, or you may run it 15 times in a game. It all depends on what the defense is showing you.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

Honestly, regardless of how anyone on here feels about it, a guy like Smith expressing this much disdain for it doesn't speak well of its chances for being seen as much next year.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

Till they lost Ngata and got tired, yeah I think they did a pretty good job.

You can't put it all on offensive mistakes.


Why not? The Raven's forced 1 three and out. On the 49ers first series of the game. Other than that they did not "stop them" once. Not once.

An overthrow and a fumble is an error by the offense. It isn't being stopped by the defense.

The Raven's had no answer for anything the 49ers did last night. The 49ers moved the ball at will.

If you have a team that can get to the red zone anytime it wants, you aren't playing good defense. Luckily the 49ers made what I would consider "unforced" turnovers. Otherwise the 49ers would have won by a lot and probably scored 40+ points

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:27 PM

Why not? The Raven's forced 1 three and out. On the 49ers first series of the game. Other than that they did not "stop them" once. Not once.

An overthrow and a fumble is an error by the offense. It isn't being stopped by the defense.

The Raven's had no answer for anything the 49ers did last night. The 49ers moved the ball at will.

If you have a team that can get to the red zone anytime it wants, you aren't playing good defense. Luckily the 49ers made what I would consider "unforced" turnovers. Otherwise the 49ers would have won by a lot and probably scored 40+ points


How many points do you get for getting to the red zone?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Honestly, regardless of how anyone on here feels about it, a guy like Smith expressing this much disdain for it doesn't speak well of its chances for being seen as much next year.


If I am a coach on the hot seat I wouldn't give two sh!ts about what anyone said on my team. I would do whatever I thought was best to win games.

It is up to Rivera and Shula to decide if it is going to be a big part of our offense next year. Not Steve Smith.


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