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#71 IamSoClutch

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:24 AM

Since when did the sure fire wide recievers last until the 14th? most of those go atleast top 10. we wont be able to afford a sure fire wide reciever in free agency for the next two years. by that time smitty will be 36. it takes any wide reciever two years to reach there true NFL form. thats why we need a WR now. if gamble is gone which i think he will be cb is the only position i want in the 1st unless Star or a great OT falls in our lap.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:26 AM

also the same things yall say about patterson are the same things critics said about Cam, raw and only 1 year of college experience out of juco. patterson inserted in this offense would make it so explosive and in tow years he could take smitty spot

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:12 AM

The same type of reasoning could be used for a DT. Unless you see a Ndamukong Suh, Vince Wilfork, Haloti Ngata at your draft position, what's the point of reaching for a DT in the first? Unless we trade up, Star Lotulelei is gonna be gone. For that matter, Kenny Vacarro will be gone at Safety, and Dee Milliner will be gone at CB. I am thinking that we will be taking the BPA in fitting with our needs, but like I said before, I am not worried either way. Rivera has proven that he can hit the mark, and Gettleman is supposed to be the master evaluator.


That would be a good reason if at the DT, or CB position we had the depth and talent we have at WR right now.

DT on the roster if we don't sign back both edwards boys or Neblett are.............
Fua---Chandler-----Krease

CB on the roster if we lose both Gamble and Captain are..............
Dockery-----Norman-------Thomas----Hickson

Wr on the roster .....
Smith---Lafell---Gettis----Pilaris----Adams-----Bryant----Edwards


I'm sorry if I have more faith in what I see on the WR depth chart then DT and CB. All that can change if we can make some moves in FA. But right now it is what it is.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:27 AM

also the same things yall say about patterson are the same things critics said about Cam, raw and only 1 year of college experience out of juco. patterson inserted in this offense would make it so explosive and in tow years he could take smitty spot



Could people on here please stop using Cam to make a point about a WR.

2 different Position 1st of all can not be compare for their impact on a team. Scouts are often wrong on QB going both ways. Example Clausen was the most pro ready. Gabbert was pro ready. They don't make as many mistakes on WR.

Cam was a National Championship winning QB who carried his team in his "1" year of big time college football.

Patterson did not carrie his team to anything. He only played because the other guys got hurt. And he doesn't run but 2-3 routes and has a lot of work to be done on his hands. He did more running out the back field then Joe adams. He had half as many rushes as he had rec.

Cam broke records for TD,- passing% and TD to TO ratio his 1 year.

Patterson stats are (in his 1 year of Big time college football) 46 rec. 778 yards 5td.
When was the last WR with those numbers drafted in the top 15???
Don't worry I'll wait.................

So can we stop comparing Cam to Patterson please???

How about doing some homework and show me a "WR" with 1year of College exp. that was as raw as Patterson is but made a impact in his rookie season. poo find me one that had impact in his 2nd year if you can.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:37 AM

Since when did the sure fire wide recievers last until the 14th? most of those go atleast top 10. we wont be able to afford a sure fire wide reciever in free agency for the next two years. by that time smitty will be 36. it takes any wide reciever two years to reach there true NFL form. thats why we need a WR now. if gamble is gone which i think he will be cb is the only position i want in the 1st unless Star or a great OT falls in our lap.




Not in the 1st or 2nd round we don't with bigger problems on the roster. We don't have the Luxury to pick up another project at WR right now. If their was a Michael Floyd (who was picked 13th last year) maybe I'd agree with you.

We have enough projects at WR right now in my opinion and bigger needs on the team.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

That would be a good reason if at the DT, or CB position we had the depth and talent we have at WR right now.

DT on the roster if we don't sign back both edwards boys or Neblett are.............
Fua---Chandler-----Krease

CB on the roster if we lose both Gamble and Captain are..............
Dockery-----Norman-------Thomas----Hickson

Wr on the roster .....
Smith---Lafell---Gettis----Pilaris----Adams-----Bryant----Edwards


I'm sorry if I have more faith in what I see on the WR depth chart then DT and CB. All that can change if we can make some moves in FA. But right now it is what it is.


Dwan is on a two year he's not going anywhere.

Pass Rush helps DBs, and our DBs played fine w/o Gamble the latter have of the season (Excluding Saftey play, that definitely needs to be upgraded.)

No garuntee Gettis, Pilaries or Armanti or even Murphy and Adams, are around next season, and no garuntee Bryant makes the roster.

Only WRs on our roster that are garunteed a spot are Smitty and LaFell.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

Not in the 1st or 2nd round we don't with bigger problems on the roster. We don't have the Luxury to pick up another project at WR right now. If their was a Michael Floyd (who was picked 13th last year) maybe I'd agree with you.

We have enough projects at WR right now in my opinion and bigger needs on the team.


Exactly... see how you just deaded your argument?

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

Dwan is on a two year he's not going anywhere.

Pass Rush helps DBs, and our DBs played fine w/o Gamble the latter have of the season (Excluding Saftey play, that definitely needs to be upgraded.)

No garuntee Gettis, Pilaries or Armanti or even Murphy and Adams, are around next season, and no garuntee Bryant makes the roster.

Only WRs on our roster that are garunteed a spot are Smitty and LaFell.

So



Know what the fug you're talking about before you reply to me

http://www.spotrac.c...s/dwan-edwards/

He is a UFA. And Ron's getting CUTTTT!!!
So there is a chance we don't have either of the Edwards boys.

2. Pass rush didn't help them When Brady Quinn was lighting them the fug up. Not to mention we could be losing Captain as well. I don't care what stupid excuse you come up with.
We are not in good shape at CB if Gamble and captain are gone.

3. Murphy is a FA that's why I didn't have him listed. But I Garuntee 3 or 4 out of the 5 of (Gettis, Pilaris, Edwards, Bryant, Adams) will be on the team.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

Know what the fug you're talking about before you reply to me

http://www.spotrac.c...s/dwan-edwards/

He is a UFA. And Ron's getting CUTTTT!!!
So there is a chance we don't have either of the Edwards boys.

2. Pass rush didn't help them When Brady Quinn was lighting them the fug up. Not to mention we could be losing Captain as well. I don't care what stupid excuse you come up with.
We are not in good shape at CB if Gamble and captain are gone.

3. Murphy is a FA that's why I didn't have him listed. But I Garuntee 3 or 4 out of the 5 of (Gettis, Pilaris, Edwards, Bryant, Adams) will be on the team.


My mistake on Dwan. Thought he was a two year but still don't see him going anywhere.

Lol if Captain is gone it doesn't matter? He was the one getting torched week in an week out (KC game included.) And if Gamble is gone yeah he'll be missed but bot the top CBs are projected to be gone by the time we pick so,

And Pass Rush does help secondary, it's why we played better off the second half of the season.

Also lol even if 3 or 4 of them return. You have Gettis, who's in Rivera's dog house/hasn't seen real football action since his rookie season, Pilares who's flashed and not much more, probably more of a slot guy, Bryant, good measurables but has yet to prove anything, Admas who has done nothing but disappoint and drop punts and Edwards who is lol.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

I am still not sold on a DT at 14. But I have always been leary of the DT high draft pick bust rates.

But, given the Giants history of taking DL high, it just might be in Gettleman's dna to do so.....I trust him.

I personally want an OL or DB in the first round.

I would love to have another weapon for Cam at WR, but am not sure there is any sure fire studs in this draft that are worthy of a top 14 pick. But, I admit that I have NOT done much research on the matter.


I think there are high odds of a worthy WR being there in the 2nd for us...

DL in the first, WR in the 2nd potentially.....all depends on a BPA not smacking us and it all being close.


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