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Is Ray Lewis really a top 5 linebacker?


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#11 Peppers90 NC

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 02:29 PM

what

don't worry about it

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 09:39 AM

oh, and you think it's fair to say these LBr's most of us probably never saw play a game is better than Ray Lewis who is playing now when the game is 20xs the level what it used to be?

Players were tougher back then too.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:32 AM

Players were tougher back then too.

And players were smaller and slower back then too with less rules to hurt defenders today. Today Ray Lewis plays against guys who are stronger, bigger, faster than most of the players back then. The rules today favor offense so much that its harder to be a defender now than it was when those guys played. Factor in leadership and there might never have been a MLB quite like Ray. You guys are boasting about the past like the above user without thinking about how much different it is now.

Plus, those linebackers racked up tackles and such while playing in an NFL that catered much more to running. That is more opportunities for tackles. Ray Lewis had to play in the passing era so he had less opportunities to make plays at the line of scrimmage like some of those older guys.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:15 AM

And players were smaller and slower back then too with less rules to hurt defenders today. Today Ray Lewis plays against guys who are stronger, bigger, faster than most of the players back then. The rules today favor offense so much that its harder to be a defender now than it was when those guys played. Factor in leadership and there might never have been a MLB quite like Ray. You guys are boasting about the past like the above user without thinking about how much different it is now.

Plus, those linebackers racked up tackles and such while playing in an NFL that catered much more to running. That is more opportunities for tackles. Ray Lewis had to play in the passing era so he had less opportunities to make plays at the line of scrimmage like some of those older guys.

Yeah. So there was also no HGH and steroids like today either. You are boasting about the present without giving proper credence to the past. I judge a players greatness by how much they dominate their ERA. Not getting into hypothetical what if he played in the 2000s. That's not the point. They played when they played. You act like i'm hating Ray. I could give two shits. I'm just not stroking his cock like some of you. If everyone was slower and smaller back then it was an even playing field.


Less rules to hurt defenders? Refs don't call poo on Ole Ray anyway.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 06:44 AM

You know, Urlacher has similar stats to Lewis. He's a few years younger and if he plays a few more years (the same years Ray has played) he'll be close to him in tackles.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:37 AM

awesome rant i read. Note:i don't agree with all of it or necessarily any of it lol

He was charged with obstruction of justice in a case where there were no other suspects outside of his crew, after his girlfriend burned his white suit he was wearing the evening in question. I don't think he murdered two people, I think he held two people still while they were murdered. He returned from a season ending injury in 10 weeks at age 37 and yet no one in the media talks about how he might be taking steroids. He's a narcissist who cries every time he's on camera, repeats roughly the 10 same "inspirational" words, and thinks god devotes roughly 40% of time to him. He does a ridiculous dance before every game, prior to which the grounds crew puts fake sod on the field for him to rip up, much the same way hulk hogan would rip a pre cut tshirt off before every match. He was easily the worst player on the field during the sb. Haters gonna...make perfectly reasonable accusations

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

Yeah. So there was also no HGH and steroids like today either. You are boasting about the present without giving proper credence to the past. I judge a players greatness by how much they dominate their ERA. Not getting into hypothetical what if he played in the 2000s. That's not the point. They played when they played. You act like i'm hating Ray. I could give two shits. I'm just not stroking his cock like some of you. If everyone was slower and smaller back then it was an even playing field.


Less rules to hurt defenders? Refs don't call poo on Ole Ray anyway.

players weren't doped up on pills and possibly roids and what not back in the 60's, 70's and 80's? The NFL had no drug testing back then and were very soft on illegal substances.

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

Players were tougher back then too.


you really going to test the toughness of Ray? blasphemy

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Posted 08 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

you really going to test the toughness of Ray? blasphemy

Wasn't testing Ray ray's toughness. That isn't something i doubt about him sir. Speaking the league in general.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:05 AM

Message board posters shouldn't be questioning football players' toughness in general


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