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sign of things to come here? Giants cut Ahmad Bradshaw...also Chris Canty


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#37 panthers55

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:13 PM

Well, player for player trades are rare....for 30 yr old RBs at that.

I don't see why any team would trade a decent draft pick for one. might as well use it on a young RB in that case.

If the option is release him outright or trade him for a fifth or six rounder, it is a no brainer for us. but teams could just wait until we release him unless they have a desire for him.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

You have to cut Stewart, and draft a bigger back in the late to mid rounds that will stay on the field.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:23 PM

You have to cut Stewart, and draft a bigger back in the late to mid rounds that will stay on the field.


Stewart has more guaranteed money on his contract than DWill does.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:24 PM

You have to cut Stewart, and draft a bigger back in the late to mid rounds that will stay on the field.

Since Double Trouble was formed....he has suited up for more games than Williams. He has played in 71 of 80 potential regular season games. He also is younger than his partner in crime.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:30 PM

Since Double Trouble was formed....he has suited up for more games than Williams. He has played in 71 of 80 potential regular season games. He also is younger than his partner in crime.



I would take into account that he hasn't missed any games the last two years. He missed the end of the 2009 season and a little more than half of the 2010 season. He hurt is ankle when Ted Washington fell on him his rookie year as well. It was clear we were not going anywhere in the seasons he hung it up.

It seems like Stewart always misses games when we start to get things going.

Injuries aside I would love to keep Stewart out of the two, but I am also comfortable with DLO.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:36 PM

I would take into account that he hasn't missed any games the last two years. He missed the end of the 2009 season and a little more than half of the 2010 season. He hurt is ankle when Ted Washington fell on him his rookie year as well. It was clear we were not going anywhere in the seasons he hung it up.

It seems like Stewart always misses games when we start to get things going.

Injuries aside I would love to keep Stewart out of the two, but I am also comfortable with DLO.

Stewart was part of rolling in 08
Stewart was part of the strong 09 finish
Stewart was part of the strong 11 finish

Outside of this past season, he has been part of things when we were rolling

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:43 PM

Stewart was part of rolling in 08
Stewart was part of the strong 09 finish
Stewart was part of the strong 11 finish

Outside of this past season, he has been part of things when we were rolling


Its kind of funny because I am in favor of holding on to Beason. You want to see him cut.

Then you are supporting holding on to Stewart over Williams when he was hurt last year. I prefer holding on to Stewart based on talent, so it is funny that I think we should cut him. Go figure, and Beason's injuries are far worse.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:02 AM

Were in a league now where you can't get too attached to players. Pay your core players and everyone else is expendable.


With the salary cap, it really does boild down to, Can my core beat your core?

Keep your team young and cheap. It allows you to keep your core, and, shop for decent FAs instead of the bargain basement ones. Unfortunately, hurndog lost his way and strayed from the plan. I believe Gettlemen will get us back on track by getting contracts back on track.

Pay your core, reasonably, and hope they are better than everyone elses.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:21 AM

one of the best times of the offseason every year is seeing every self proclaimed cap "expert" stunned when whatever horn they've been tooting for months is all of a sudden blown to pieces and they have no idea how it happened

"like zomg guys we can't cut a RB, Goodell will literally come and kidnap our cap and have relations with it and the mutant child that is birthed will be forced to be our new cap clearly you guys just don't understand how the cap works but I do because sheikh zulu told me how it did in that thread one time a couple years ago"



Every year, we are in a cap struggle. We are not able to go after a few key pieces because of our mismanagement in the past.

Do you think that had we had some space that Vincent Jackson would have been a good pickup for Cam and this O? We didn't have the cap space to do it.

Do you think that we got a steal by bringing in Naka? Nope, we just couldn't afford anything better.

Yes, we always manage to get under the cap....all teams do, but we are not a good football team. As bad as we have been lately, we should have tons of cap to show for it....but we don't.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

Every year, we are in a cap struggle. We are not able to go after a few key pieces because of our mismanagement in the past.

Do you think that had we had some space that Vincent Jackson would have been a good pickup for Cam and this O? We didn't have the cap space to do it.

Do you think that we got a steal by bringing in Naka? Nope, we just couldn't afford anything better.

Yes, we always manage to get under the cap....all teams do, but we are not a good football team. As bad as we have been lately, we should have tons of cap to show for it....but we don't.



I don't think you quite understand how this football team works.

Electing not to sign "big name" free agents is just that-a decision. A flawed philosophy that we picked up somewhere along the way. It has nothing to do with " we. Aint. Got. No. Moniez. Brah!" and only a simpleton would think so. That cap can be arranged and manipulated by a competent manager of it with ease provided they're intelligent enough to do it an willing to do it (I.e. making the tough decisions)

We see every team around the league do it yearly, and every year the same morons are befuddled because "like what? How? Espn said that dey ain't got no moniez and moniez was something dey did not have!!"

It even happens here in the rare case we make a move in free agency

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

I don't think you quite understand how this football team works.

Electing not to sign "big name" free agents is just that-a decision. A flawed philosophy that we picked up somewhere along the way. It has nothing to do with " we. Aint. Got. No. Moniez. Brah!" and only a simpleton would think so. That cap can be arranged and manipulated by a competent manager of it with ease provided they're intelligent enough to do it an willing to do it (I.e. making the tough decisions)

We see every team around the league do it yearly, and every year the same morons are befuddled because "like what? How? Espn said that dey ain't got no moniez and moniez was something dey did not have!!"

It even happens here in the rare case we make a move in free agency

yes, you can have a model where you don't go after big name free agents.

He was simply pointing out, if that wasn't Carolina's philisophy, they couldn't go after the big name FA's. If Carolina replaced Hurney with a guy who wanted to go after big name players....he COULDN'T. Not immediately. Not with out wiping out real talent. You would be trading off instead of just adding. Will take a couple years to get out of the mess to create real room.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

I don't think you quite understand how this football team works.

Electing not to sign "big name" free agents is just that-a decision. A flawed philosophy that we picked up somewhere along the way. It has nothing to do with " we. Aint. Got. No. Moniez. Brah!" and only a simpleton would think so. That cap can be arranged and manipulated by a competent manager of it with ease provided they're intelligent enough to do it an willing to do it (I.e. making the tough decisions)

We see every team around the league do it yearly, and every year the same morons are befuddled because "like what? How? Espn said that dey ain't got no moniez and moniez was something dey did not have!!"

It even happens here in the rare case we make a move in free agency



Electing to sign or not to sign is not the issue, it's the fact that they can't even if they wanted to.

We/Hurney (Idiot) decided to keep a base together, and WAY overpay them just to maintain more of the same.

It was a flawed policy, and will now hamstring the team for another two years.

I am not one of these guys that screams for a pick up every time there is a cut out there, but we could really benefit from an occasional FA pickup, even if it was a big name.

Had we not signed DWill or Beason or Kalil, we could have a true number 1 WR and not have to worry about that in the draft this year, instead focusing on CB, DT, OT.