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[quote name='Floppin' timestamp='1360279116' post='2128448']
Wrong.....

See my post on page two regarding this.
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Let just say that the Panther's are definitely going to need over 3 million for the draft picks even with the top 51 rule and that's before they cut players to get under the cap. They'll have to cut around 6 players to get under that's not named Williams or Beason. Which with the roster setup on the Panther's right now would push that number up towards 4 million that they would need to sign the rookies.

1st pick is going to cost 1.5 million against the cap, with the top 51 rule in place.
2nd pick is going to cost 600-700k against the cap, with the top 51 rule in place.
3rd picks is going to cost around 150-200k against the cap with the top 51 rule in place.
the other picks are going to cost around 20k-60k each based on the round and singing bonus.
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around 2-3 million even with the top 51 rule in place. Picks in rounds 4-7 make 480k plus signing bonus with that bonus ranging from 120k to 15k depending on the round. First round pick will knock someone off making less the 500k plus have a signing bonus on top of that. They'll end up making close to 3 million counting both. 2nd round pick will end up making over 1 million dollars counting signing bonus. Those numbers are based on last years numbers.

Now if the Panther's cut 5-6 players that puts players currently making less then 480k into the top 51 making the amount needed even higher.


This year drafted Rookies will earn around 500k or so, with the minimum being 420k, last year the only players on the Panther's making the minimum of 405k was UDFA. The other players earned 480k. The Panther's currently have around 5-6 players making league minimum for players this upcoming season that will get knocked into the top 51 based on cuts.


If you go by last years draft class with a look at the Panther's 2013 roster, all of the Panther's 2013 draft picks after cuts will be in the top 51.

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Well done. thank you.

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[quote name='KendrickPanther' timestamp='1360255845' post='2127843']
I still don't know why we paid Beason [b]BEFORE[/b] that injury was worked out.
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Did the same thing with Dan Morgan.....go figure

Best post I have seen for some time...great job!

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1360252141' post='2127756']
We also have draft picks to sign....so I think we need to get down even more to have room to sign them.
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I could very well be wrong on this but I believe that rookies no longer count against the team salary cap.

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[quote name='Mage' timestamp='1360285216' post='2128545']

I could very well be wrong on this but I believe that rookies no longer count against the team salary cap.
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Panthers fans never cease to amaze.

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[quote name='Firefox' timestamp='1360285435' post='2128551']

Panthers fans never cease to amaze.
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Well, I'm sorry if I'm wrong I guess and apologies for amazing you so you can make fun of me to look cool. Even said I wasn't sure.

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Practice squad counts too, as well as any gas you might buy to put in a player's car. ANY type of compensation counts.

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[quote name='Firefox' timestamp='1360285823' post='2128559']
Practice squad counts too, as well as any gas you might buy to put in a player's car. ANY type of compensation counts.
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but credit cards are basically free moneyss!!!!!

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[quote name='carpanfan96' timestamp='1360281878' post='2128491']
Let just say that the Panther's are definitely going to need over 3 million for the draft picks even with the top 51 rule and that's before they cut players to get under the cap. They'll have to cut around 6 players to get under that's not named Williams or Beason. Which with the roster setup on the Panther's right now would push that number up towards 4 million that they would need to sign the rookies.
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This is true, but the good news is we don't have to have the space now (March). Since picks typically sign in the summer and since they count at rookie minimum until they actually sign a contract, it gives Gettleman a bit more time to see which positions are addressed via the draft and fine tune his thinking on the roster. One cut post June 1st (probably Williams) will give us all the room we need to sign our picks.

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[quote name='Marguide' timestamp='1360288658' post='2128602']

This is true, but the good news is we don't have to have the space now (March). Since picks typically sign in the summer and since they count at rookie minimum until they actually sign a contract, it gives Gettleman a bit more time to see which positions are addressed via the draft and fine tune his thinking on the roster. One cut post June 1st (probably Williams) will give us all the room we need to sign our picks.
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Wasn't saying they would all have to be made up front, I was just saying in total the team would need to clear up 12.4 Million to get even with the cap 3-5 million for draft picks (counting the top 51 rule), and another 4-5 on top of that if the team wants to be semi active in FA to sign a mid level or two.

If they cut who I expect they will

Gamble, Nak, Edwards, Williams, Gettis, A. Edwards and a restructure for Gross. They'll still have to June 1st cut either Beason or Williams to finish things out.

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[quote name='carpanfan96' timestamp='1360289498' post='2128623']


Wasn't saying they would all have to be made up front, I was just saying in total the team would need to clear up 12.4 Million to get even with the cap 3-5 million for draft picks (counting the top 51 rule), and another 4-5 on top of that if the team wants to be semi active in FA to sign a mid level or two.

If they cut who I expect they will

Gamble, Nak, Edwards, Williams, Gettis, A. Edwards and a restructure for Gross. They'll still have to June 1st cut either Beason or Williams to finish things out.
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The more I think about it, perhaps we will try to move DWill via trade prior to the draft. If we could find a partner, we would take a negative hit of $1.4 million this year and then he would be off our books for good. What kind of pick would make it worthwhile to have to deal with that kind of hit? 3rd round? 4th round?

If that is at all part of Gettleman's plan, we may have to get a bit more aggressive in March to allow us the freedom to do a draft day deal for Williams.

But yeah, in general I agree with your list as written.

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