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#31 UNCrules2187

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

He also references $136M committed vs $131M above. That $5M is a huge difference.


I believe the $136m is a rounded number that was before accounting for the cap carryover of roughly ~4m.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

Coaching staff has upgraded at almost every new hire.



Yeah, except for arguably the second most important and crucial coaching spot on the team. That has been downgraded a good deal. Winning!

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

I believe the $136m is a rounded number that was before accounting for the cap carryover of roughly ~4m.


Ahhh. Gotcha.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:02 PM

Heres my personal proposal on how we should create room to sign the rookies, resign a few vets and add some depth in free agency. All in all I say we need roughly 25 million to meet this goal.

Ok so heres my immediate cuts(non june 1st designations).

Gamble- saves 8.95 million
Ron Edwards- saves 2.5 million
Gary Williams- saves 1.25 million
Nakumara- saves 967,000

these moves here would save us a total of 13.677 million with roughly another 12 million still needed for the rookies, re-signing's and adding some free agents for depth.

I would also part ways with Beason as a june 1st cut and that would save an additional 3.5 million. Now that leaves us 8.5 million short of our overall goal.

Next up on the list is Gross. I'd get him to restructure. Because if we cut him he gets zip, 0, zilch. Then has to go find a new team and see what they are willing to pay him. Last year Eric Winston got a 4 year 22 million dollar deal with the chiefs. That leads me to believe we can get Gross on about a 3 year 16 million deal roughly. If we structure it right we can save about 6 million off his cap figure of 10.7 million.

That leaves us 2.5 million over where we need to be. I'd look to someone like Deangelo Williams to restructure or face being cut. As I alluded to earlier cutting him is not ideal right now from a fiscal sense when thinking about the future but it would save us 3.4 against the cap if we did it as a June 1st cut. So he could restructure and save us the necessary money or get cut. I'd prefer the restructure route for now but if push comes to shove then we can cut him.

Ok so if my hypothetical scenario plays out then the following players will either be replaced by another vet or a rookie draft pick.

under contract currently
Gamble,Gary Williams,Beason,Nakumara,Ron Edwards and possibly a few other lower tier backups not because of money but because of talent or inability to get on field such as Gettis.

Free agents we let walk
Applewhite, Louis Murphy,Mike Pollack, Gary Barndige,Sherrod Martin, Ben Hartstock,Derek Anderson,Richie Brockel.

Free agents we retain
Dwan Edwards,Jason Phillips, Captain, and Nate Ness.


This will leave us looking for help at DT,WR,0-line depth,Secondary depth/vet leadership,backup QB AND TE via the draft and bargain bin of free agency.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

Great post op

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

That's depressing

#37 Stroupe-a-loop

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

Heres my personal proposal on how we should create room to sign the rookies, resign a vets and add some depth in free agency. All in all I say we need roughly 25 million to meet this goal.

Ok so heres my immediate cuts(none june 1st designations).

Gamble- saves 8.95 million
Ron Edwards- saves 2.5 million
Gary Williams- saves 1.25 million
Nakumara- saves 967,000

these moves here would save us a total of 13.677 million with roughly another 12 million still needed for the rookies, re-signing's and adding some free agents for depth.

I would also part ways with Beason as a june 1st cut and that would save an additional 3.5 million. Now that leaves us 8.5 million short of our overall goal.

Next up on the list is Gross. I'd get him to restructure. Because if we cut him he gets zip, 0, zilch. Then has to go find a new team and see what they are willing to pay him. Last year Eric Winston got a 4 year 22 million dollar deal with the chiefs. That leads me to believe we can get Gross on about a 3 year 16 million deal roughly. If we structure it right we can save about 6 million off his cap figure of 10.7 million.

That leaves us 2.5 million over where we need to be. I'd look to someone like Deangelo Williams to restructure or face being cut. As I alluded to earlier cutting him is not ideal right now from a fiscal sense when thinking about the future but it would save us 3.4 against the cap if we did it as a June 1st cut. So he could easier restructure and save us the necessary money or get cut. I'd prefer the restructure route for now but if push comes to shove then can cut him.

Ok so if my hypothetical scenario plays out then the following players will either be replaced by another vet or a rookie draft pick.

under contract currently
Gamble,Gary Williams,Beason,Nakumara,Ron Edwards and possibly a few other lower tier backups not because of money but because of talent or inability to get on field such as Gettis.

Free agents we let walk
Applewhite, Louis Murphy,Mike Pollack, Gary Barndige,Sherrod Martin, Ben Hartstock,Derek Anderson,Richie Brockel.

Free agents we retain
Dwan Edwards,Jason Phillips, Captain, and Nate Ness.


This will leave us looking for help at DT,WR,0-line depth,Secondary depth/vet leadership,backup QB AND TE via the draft and bargain bin of free agency.



Pretty reasonable plan. I've also heard some discussion of us being able to basically "Opt out" of the Deangelo Williams deal like the Eagles can with Vick. Has there been anymore reporting on that, or is that something that Gannt or somebody just made up?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

We are going into 2013 with a downgraded coaching staff and roster.

Thats all you really need to know. lol


It may not be as bad as you think. Beason won't sting so much if we cut him, thanks to Luke. We have some promising young guys who can step up in place of Gamble if we cut him. Ron Edwards can't be missed too much as he was always just a stop gap and only played 1 year.

Then pending where go in the draft and cheap vets we will have an upgrade at DT,WR,O-line depth and possibly FS(Whether thats Campbell improving and keeping the starting job or draft pick or better vet than Nakumara and Martin out there.)

As far as the coaching staff goes, I wanted Rivera gone as much as anyone but that ship has sailed and all we can do is hope that its starting to click for him in year 3. Also Shula is a wildcard but its not like Chud did us any favors with his horrid play calling last year.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Pretty reasonable plan. I've also heard some discussion of us being able to basically "Opt out" of the Deangelo Williams deal like the Eagles can with Vick. Has there been anymore reporting on that, or is that something that Gannt or somebody just made up?


In 2014 we can bow out of the D-will deal,save money and not carry over dead money into 2015.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:13 PM

Great post. Good job man.

Pretty sad state of affairs honestly.

Where are all those stupid "Hurney Magic" threads now?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

Don't forget, $3.75 mil of Beason's 2013 salary is also guaranteed and will hit the cap, cut or not.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

It may not be as bad as you think.



Man I hope not. Will enjoy being wrong.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

So how much would we save this season if Beason is a June 1st cut?

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:12 PM

Yeah, except for arguably the second most important and crucial coaching spot on the team. That has been downgraded a good deal. Winning!

Chud sucked. Shula sucks. Not exactly a downgrade.

Chud is Mike Shanahan. A bad OC who lucked into a freak QB....nothing more.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 01:22 PM

Chud sucked. Shula sucks. Not exactly a downgrade.

Chud is Mike Shanahan. A bad OC who lucked into a freak QB....nothing more.


Shanahan got Jake Plummer and Brian Griese to Pro-bowls. I think most people would consider him prettay, prettay, good. Hell, Chud won 10 games with Derek Anderson. Both those guys are pretty good if inconsistent sometimes.


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