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pffl had the cp with the 27th rated oline........gross the best of the group but still avg.

thats like saying a ugly girl is pretty because she hangs around uglier girls....lol :thumbsd:

Or it's like saying that Gross is bad because Hangman and Bell got beaten like a pair of rented bongos.

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The chemistry of a offensive line is almost just as important as individual performance.

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RT needs to be upgraded....in fact that whole right side does.

so what do we do? cut gross? and then add two new OTs and a new RG? where do we get these guys? from the draft? from FA with whatever change they can find leftover in the cap? do we want to get cam killed?

cutting gross just opens up a whole other can of troubles for this team. no way should he be cut. restructured? absolutely. but just cut? that's just asking for trouble. there is very little chance that a FA we could afford or a draft pick aside from maybe the top one or two OTs in the draft would be able to step in and do as well as gross regardless of how poorly some think he's doing and then you have to worry about that right side.

we are stuck between a rock and a hard place with gross. you cut him and you make a third hole on that OL in addition to the issues we have elsewhere.

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I would like him back. But what if you could draft the next Ryan Clady and save 8 million in the process? If we are not going to draft a LT at 14 or plan to pick one up in free agency, then I would agree that we have to keep Gross because we have no one better or as good. I have no clue how they will work the cap number around, but expect they would lower it. But it would be a great time to draft a OT in the first if you wanted to get free of his contract. But he would have to be good enough to start day 1.

Joeckel will be long gone by 14, but for our scheme I like Fisher. He is a good fit and can add 20 lbs to an already big frame. The idea of a 6'8" 330 lb mobile quick linemen who excels in the zone blocking scheme and in pass blocking looks promising.. Plus we save millions in the process and have our left tackle for the next decade.

Then again everyone has us taking a DT in the first like usual. So if we do that and Gettleman has a history of going D line in the first or we went with an OG if Warmack is there, we keep Gross and go corner or WR in the second. By the second round the DTs won't be better than what we already have.

Either way there is a good chance we keep Gross if we can get his number where we want it. If we don't then LT went from being a future need to an immediate priority.

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LT and RT stats look worse because of inadequacies at the guard position (silatolu being a noob and the rotating circus act at RG sucking royal arse.)

the fact is jordan gross is a damn good tackle. however, his cap hit reflects a tackle in the prime of his career putting up franchise caliber numbers, and that's an imbalance that needs to be rectified if he's going to stay with the team. we have absolutely got to clear up cap space so that salaries accurately match performance.

i don't see gettleman ignoring this fact.

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Here is the conversation:

Gettleman: We would like to restructure your contract Jordan

Gross: OK!

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We would typically have a TE on the right to chip the defensive end and help Bell a bit.

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I think we've got Jordan in a good position to restructure and I think he's still got a couple good years left. I say we keep Jordan and focus on drafting a RG high. Then as long as we take a RT project at 6 or 7 it'll theoretically give our current UDFA Bell competition.

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Here is the conversation:

Gettleman: We would like to restructure your contract Jordan

Gross: OK!

Yeah gross is the last person on the team i think would have a problem with restructuring. If he leaves ill miss seeing Gross 69 jersey on the field.

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