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the meat industry now consumes 4/5ths of all antibiotics

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But the issue is, you have an economic logic, and you have an evolutionary and natural logic. And when you get to the cow, you see them come into conflict. It may well make sense economically to feed cows what we feed them, but ecologically, it's a disaster. It's a disaster for them because they're getting sick. If you look at a cow on a feedlot, it is not a happy camper. ...

Instead, we take the Midwest and we pave it essentially [with] corn and soybeans, and the environmental consequences of growing all that corn -- and most of the corn grown in this country goes to feed livestock -- is environmental degradation of the Midwest and the Gulf. There's a dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico a thousand miles wide that is the result of nitrogen runoff coming down the Mississippi and killing all the life in this zone in the Gulf. And that's coming directly from corn.

So you see the cow is connected to that dead zone in the Gulf, and the cow is connected to our health, too. All these things are connected. There is an ecological logic that is very different than the economic logic. And in that ecological logic, you can't separate the health of the cow, the health of the environment, and the health of the eater. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/interviews/pollan.html

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But the issue is, you have an economic logic, and you have an evolutionary and natural logic. And when you get to the cow, you see them come into conflict. It may well make sense economically to feed cows what we feed them, but ecologically, it's a disaster. It's a disaster for them because they're getting sick. If you look at a cow on a feedlot, it is not a happy camper. ...

Instead, we take the Midwest and we pave it essentially [with] corn and soybeans, and the environmental consequences of growing all that corn -- and most of the corn grown in this country goes to feed livestock -- is environmental degradation of the Midwest and the Gulf. There's a dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico a thousand miles wide that is the result of nitrogen runoff coming down the Mississippi and killing all the life in this zone in the Gulf. And that's coming directly from corn.

So you see the cow is connected to that dead zone in the Gulf, and the cow is connected to our health, too. All these things are connected. There is an ecological logic that is very different than the economic logic. And in that ecological logic, you can't separate the health of the cow, the health of the environment, and the health of the eater. http://www.pbs.org/w...ews/pollan.html

If only people weren't so gosh darn greedy.

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What about growth hormones?

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Farming Superbugs

Feedlots are an ideal breeding ground for resistant microorganisms. Bacteria mutate rapidly, and adapt quickly. Exposing bacteria to non-lethal doses of antibiotics gives microorganisms the opportunity to develop genetic resistance, which protects them from even high doses of the drugs. By feeding animals antibiotics we are facilitating the development of resilient new pathogens.

These superbugs can then be passed from livestock to humans. Farmers are particularly susceptible to infection, but even people who never come into contact with a live pig or a chicken are at risk. Antibiotic resistant bacteria are found in the air and soil around farms, and in meat and produce in grocery stores. A recent study from the Netherlands published in the CDC journal Emerging Infectious Diseases found the same strain of drug-resistant E. coli in chickens, chicken meat, and humans, leading the researchers to suggest that resistant bacteria were passed to humans who ate infected poultry. A previous study supported their conclusion.

Antibiotic resistant bacteria can spread to vegetables when feces from infected animals leech into surface and groundwater or are used to fertilize produce. The recent lethal E. coli outbreaks in Europe, which killed over 40 people, were caused by tainted bean sprouts.

Hog farms have also come under scrutiny, thanks to studies showing a high prevalence of a strain of MRSA (Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus) in employees and pigs on hog farms. In the United States, more people die from MRSA each year than from AIDS, although the hog barn variant is one of MRSA’s more benign forms. According to the FDA, 80 percent of antibiotics used in the United States are administered to animals, not humans. In fact, more antibiotics are used on animals in the state of North Carolina than on humans in the entire United States. In 2009, 29.8 million pounds of antibiotics were pumped into livestock across the country. http://www.freshthemovie.com/2011/07/07/cultivating-infection-the-dangers-of-antibiotic-overuse-on-animal-farms/

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Dr. Martin J. Blaser, chairman of the department of medicine at New York University Langone Medical Center, and a former president of the Infectious Diseases Society of America, agrees that agricultural use of antibiotics produces cheaper meat. But he says the price may be an enormous toll in human health.

“You could have very lethal pandemics,” he said. “We’re brewing some perfect storms.” http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/07/opinion/07kristof.html?_r=0

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F*ck Dr. Martin J. Blaser.

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This was from 1998....you think the situation has improved?

http://whqlibdoc.who.int/hq/1998/WHO_EMC_ZDI_98.10.pdf

Maybe there was a reason World War Z supposedly starts in the 3 gorges dam on the Yangtze river.

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What about growth hormones?

Meh...not really concerned about that.

Ever notice sometimes you eat wings/chicken legs and there's blood clotting on the bone...but outside the marrow? That's an example of a chicken who's grown at a sped up rate. Compare it to a home grown chicken that's butchered.

I don't know if there's much negative impact...but these sorts of things have been going on for nearly 20 years.

With such a huge sample, imagine the work required to do a clinical study on this and trying to find links in long term illnesses like cancer, heart disease, brain disorders, etc.

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Meh...not really concerned about that.

Ever notice sometimes you eat wings/chicken legs and there's blood clotting on the bone...but outside the marrow? That's an example of a chicken who's grown at a sped up rate. Compare it to a home grown chicken that's butchered.

I don't know if there's much negative impact...but these sorts of things have been going on for nearly 20 years.

With such a huge sample, imagine the work required to do a clinical study on this and trying to find links in long term illnesses like cancer, heart disease, brain disorders, etc.

Don't you think that is why we have so many fat asses around.

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Don't you think that is why we have so many fat asses around.

No...that's caloric intake, lots of sugar, and lack of exercise. Systemic issues? Maybe. Need to know more.

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No...that's caloric intake, lots of sugar, and lack of exercise. Systemic issues? Maybe. Need to know more.

Do you think that eating meat laced with hormones has no effect on us? I understand that we need to know more but is that where you stand at the moment?

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Do you think that eating meat laced with hormones has no effect on us? I understand that we need to know more but is that where you stand at the moment?

The Industrialized Farming Lobby is using the Big Tobacco Playbook, claiming everything is safe, nothing to worry about or we need more time to research or it can't be proven, all the while their lobbyist will continue to stonewall change beneficial to consumers in Washington DC via pseudoscience, bribes and intimidation. They can't possibly win on the facts. Same people that are against better regulation of the industry today, will be the very same ones tomorrow crying about incompetent government oversight when their families are poisoned or killed from these Frankenstein Monsters of the feed lot.

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