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Is Our Fanbase Predisposed to "Fairweather-ism"?

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You were not around in 2003? Then the bitchin was about the bandwagoners.

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I think Charlotte and Raleigh are just very timid/lax cities. Take Philly for example, very blue collar and it has an "edge". Same for Pittsburgh. NYC has it as well. Take any Panthers game and half or more of the fans are parents, bankers, wear khakis, are elderly, etc. The fans aren't fairweather, IMO, they're just too quiet. I mean, you can kick someone out for being too loud. Other stadiums do this as well but it seems like other places don't enforce it as much as we do. It's almost an atmosphere. Bible Belt, southern hospitality, etc. Same thing with Braves games in ATL.

While I would agree with you for the most part, if you go to college football/basketball games for Duke, NC State or Carolina, they are not timid/lax. I just don't think the loytalty has been ingrained in the people around the Carolina's yet.

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It's a combination of:

A. Not being a consistent winner (and at times, downright mediocre.)

B. Since the team began playing in 1995, the fanbase is still in its first generation of people who grew up in the Carolinas with the Panthers.

Fix A, and you'll give the Redskins and Cowboys fans a reason to start supporting their "hometown" team (which, believe it or not, I think some may actually want to do right now, just haven't become consistent winners.)

Fix B, and you'll begin to see more fans stick around during the bad times because of the "hometown" loyalty.

Considering the market we are in and our recent (lack of) successes on the field, I'd say our fanbase in terms of size and loyalty is probably the NFL average, especially when you consider situations like Jacksonville.

It also doesn't help that BOA Stadium was built about 5-10000 seats too large to begin with, but that's another story.

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I just think Charlotte is filled with a bunch of weak kneed bandwagon sell outs. Simple as that.

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I just think Charlotte is filled with a bunch of weak kneed bandwagon sell outs. Simple as that.

It aint easy being a Panther fan the last half decade.

Even the greatest pooping salesman on the planet was talking dropping his PSLs at the end of this season iirc.

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While I would agree with you for the most part, if you go to college football/basketball games for Duke, NC State or Carolina, they are not timid/lax. I just don't think the loytalty has been ingrained in the people around the Carolina's yet.

Well yeah, college kids. Sell 70k tickets to that age group and the stadium will be loud as hell.

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It aint easy being a Panther fan the last half decade.

Even the greatest pooping salesman on the planet was talking dropping his PSLs at the end of this season iirc.

I can't remember what the thread was about but I was threatening to just walk away. I'd never do it unfortunately. I did opt out of buying two additional PSLs this year because of my disgust.

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Well yeah, college kids. Sell 70k tickets to that age group and the stadium will be loud as hell.

No. That's the age group that shows up in other teams jerseys.

They're worried about their image. Gotta check the standings before they tell you their favorite team.

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We are still a first generation fan base. When the 2nd, and eventually the 3rd generation, join in. That will be when HOME field will start being a factor.

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There is a lot of truth to the first generation argument. Most people I know in Charlotte still follow the team they grew up with. The Panthers are their clear #2.

Once enough people haven't grown up with another team...

I grew up with the 49ers. But I was young enough (15) when the Panthers started playing that I didn't have that deep loyalty that I now have with the Panthers.

The first few years, when we were in the NFC West, I didn't care who won between us or the 49ers. I was just amazed at seeing those two teams on the same field twice a year.

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Well yeah, college kids. Sell 70k tickets to that age group and the stadium will be loud as hell.

Now that's the type of thinking the marketing people should be in on. Get college age kids there to show people how to be loud...create a culture, then faze them out while still maintaining the culture...easy lol

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There are a lot of factors to the whole fan base being "fair weather" I think.

1st generation fans is one.

Relocation of people to the area is another. (Hell, I moved to Charlotte from Albany NY in 2005. Granted tho, I picked up the Panthers when they came into the league, as I wasn't a fan of any other team)

Winning games. I know when I first moved here and started going to games, I felt the upper level moving under my feet when cheering on the team. that's not happened much since then.

The Economy doesn't help either... being a fan in the stadium or a fan at home to save money is sadly a factor too. (and one of the contributing factors to the "other teams fans" getting seats.)

Yeah, all fan bases have their fair share of "fair weather" fans. But, ya need a solid base to build up... and that base is still being built for the Panthers.

Looking ahead, I think the Panthers will get to the playoffs, the 2nd generation of fans will be established, and with winning, some of the "fair weather" fans will turn into solid fans.

But that's just me. Here's hope'n I guess.

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