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Woman butched by doc performing 3rd trimester abortion

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I would like to know more about the circumstances that drove the mother to opt for this late term abortion. How many women intentionally choose to carry a child for eight months only to abort it? The hardships and sacrifices women make to get this far along in a pregnancy are enormous and having to make this decision so close to term must have been utterly heart breaking for the parents. The child likely had extremely serious health issues that led her physician to believe prospects for the child's survival were grim. The mother's life may have also been in danger by carrying the sick baby to term. That having been said, I look forward to the day in the near future, when late term abortions are no longer performed, not because of some superstitious cult's archaic beliefs, but because science and education will have advanced enough to prevent most birth defects, while those identified during the earliest stages of pregnancy will be correctable with treatment while the child is still in the womb. http://articles.wash...on-restrictions

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All medical procedures carry risk.

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we better not limit abortion in any way or we'll just end up with roving gangs of outlaw abortion doctors terminating late term pregnancies all over the place

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All medical procedures carry risk.

Three Georgia boys die unexpectedly after dental procedure

ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) -

CBS Atlanta News is breaking an exclusive investigation into what caused three Georgia boys to lose their lives following what should have been routine medical procedures.

All three boys, ages 14 to 21, died within a month of each other in a string of tragic and bizarre deaths. They all had their wisdom teeth extracted 16 to 72 hours before they died. http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/17793876/3-georiga-boys-die-unexpectedly-after-dental-proceedure

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also just to catch everyone up, the real reason g5jamz supports measures that would force abortion providers to have admitting privileges to stay open is because in places like mississippi, where such a law was passed and then subsequently blocked via court injunction last year, hospitals have demonstrated that they'll never grant the one or two abortion clinics in the entire state admitting privileges. because there's no mechanism forcing a hospital to grant admitting privileges to abortion clinics, they're pretty much just railroaded out of the state.

so boom: abortion effectively banned, no heavy lifting required, don't have to think or care at all about how anybody will be affected by it. getting things done the social conservative way.

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we better not limit abortion in any way or we'll just end up with roving gangs of outlaw abortion doctors terminating late term pregnancies all over the place

You mean, just like things were in this country before abortion was legalized in 1973?

"A lot of people don’t even realize that there were entire wards where women who had either been butchered by people who were taking their money or had self-inflicted wounds to deal with unwanted pregnancies. That was something that many health care workers were aware of at the time. It was part of what helped people get galvanized to say there has to be a different way." http://www.counterpu...ion-before-roe/ As the availability of legally induced abortion increased, mortality due to abortion dropped sharply: The number of abortion-related deaths per million live births fell from nearly 40 in 1970 to eight in 1976.28 The trend was caused mainly by a decline in the absolute number of deaths from illegal abortion—especially after Roe v. Wade—from 39 in 1972 to two in 1976.29 After 1975, mortality due to legally induced abortion also fell—from more than three deaths per 100,000 abortions in 1975 to about one in 1976 and even fewer thereafter.30

The main reason for the reductions in both morbidity and mortality is that legally induced abortion is markedly safer than illegally induced abortion. Moreover, legal abortion is safer than the third choice available to pregnant women—continuing a pregnancy to term.31 For example, in 2000, 23% of births were abdominal (cesarean) deliveries, whereas fewer than 1% of suction curettage procedures required intra-abdominal surgery.32 Therefore, a woman carrying a pregnancy to term has several hundred times the risk of requiring major surgery of a woman undergoing suction abortion. Furthermore, in the 1970s, the risk of death related to induced abortion at 16 weeks' gestation or earlier was one-seventh that related to pregnancy and childbirth, even after adjustment for study year, age and race.33 Today, legal abortion is less likely than an injection of penicillin to cause death. http://www.guttmache...ls/3502503.html

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I personally dont agree with abortion. Personally. If i got a girl pregnant i would want the child. But so often Americans are in there own little worlds. There is a word called "empathy." I asked my father at a young age what that meant. He said it is putting yourself in someone elses shoes. Empathy to a degree has formed my political stance on most issues and particularly this one. Eight months pregnant is ridiculous, but what drove this woman to think this was the option. Absolutely crazy.

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When I read the thread title I assumed the woman turned lesbian.

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You mean, just like things were in this country before abortion was legalized in 1973?

"A lot of people don’t even realize that there were entire wards where women who had either been butchered by people who were taking their money or had self-inflicted wounds to deal with unwanted pregnancies. That was something that many health care workers were aware of at the time. It was part of what helped people get galvanized to say there has to be a different way." http://www.counterpu...ion-before-roe/ As the availability of legally induced abortion increased, mortality due to abortion dropped sharply: The number of abortion-related deaths per million live births fell from nearly 40 in 1970 to eight in 1976.28 The trend was caused mainly by a decline in the absolute number of deaths from illegal abortion—especially after Roe v. Wade—from 39 in 1972 to two in 1976.29 After 1975, mortality due to legally induced abortion also fell—from more than three deaths per 100,000 abortions in 1975 to about one in 1976 and even fewer thereafter.30

The main reason for the reductions in both morbidity and mortality is that legally induced abortion is markedly safer than illegally induced abortion. Moreover, legal abortion is safer than the third choice available to pregnant women—continuing a pregnancy to term.31 For example, in 2000, 23% of births were abdominal (cesarean) deliveries, whereas fewer than 1% of suction curettage procedures required intra-abdominal surgery.32 Therefore, a woman carrying a pregnancy to term has several hundred times the risk of requiring major surgery of a woman undergoing suction abortion. Furthermore, in the 1970s, the risk of death related to induced abortion at 16 weeks' gestation or earlier was one-seventh that related to pregnancy and childbirth, even after adjustment for study year, age and race.33 Today, legal abortion is less likely than an injection of penicillin to cause death. http://www.guttmache...ls/3502503.html

well it was intended more as a dumb play on anti-gun control arguments but it is true that there was a thriving underground abortion industry long before 1973

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Similarities abound between the right and their 2nd amendment loyalties, defense, steadfastness against change the the lefts same reactions to the abortion "right"

Neither side want ANY restrictions due to fear that it all will come tumbling down in front of their eyes. Both sides point fingers at the opposition with the most outlandish accusations. Neither group want to sit down with the other for common sense "brainstorming" on how to make things better or more humane. I think both sides fear losing a political tool to be brandished every four years moreso than they care about the residuals of the policies they hold so dear.

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Similarities abound between the right and their 2nd amendment loyalties, defense, steadfastness against change the the lefts same reactions to the abortion "right"

Neither side want ANY restrictions due to fear that it all will come tumbling down in front of their eyes. Both sides point fingers at the opposition with the most outlandish accusations. Neither group want to sit down with the other for common sense "brainstorming" on how to make things better or more humane. I think both sides fear losing a political tool to be brandished every four years moreso than they care about the residuals of the policies they hold so dear.

There are common issues "most" can agree on. Like exceptions...unfortunately though...the left and judges simpathetic classify "life of mother" as more than just direct physical threats to her life. Like mental instability...etc.

There's also a reason nearly zero docs perform late-term abortions. You know...the ones that republicans were lambasted at for banning something that "never" happens. Kinda like voter fraud.

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I agree. Generally the life of the mother is what is espoused, but when put into law, they quote the "health" of the mother, which could basically mean anything.

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