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#85 raleigh-panther

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:45 PM

both of seattle's corners especially sherman are about to get paid out the ass once their deals are up- so that really isn't a fair comparison


...'about to get paid' and getting paid are two different things.

I could also argue that they deserved to get paid a lot more than Gamble ever should have been.

Not his fault the Panthers are stupid in player management.

Gamble is a decent corner, he is not a Revis corner, and yet the Panthers paid him like he is and that is part and parcel why the Panthers are were they are today.

It seems as though the better teams find those 3-5 players that are indispensable and the rest are.

The Panthers hopefully will do the same thing now.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

pretty much how i'm looking at it.

and before that gets interpreted as gamble hate, i've got nothing against him. i thonk he's talented, but he's not really been an irreplaceable part of the defense. whether the defense was doing well or not, the defense never seemed to take that much of a step backward when he wasn't on the field.

i think the front seven and to an extent rivera's D allow us to do pretty well with less talent in the secondary. that's not to say we shouldn't address it in the offseason, but the front 7 will make it easier on whoever is in the secondary.


This.

Agree 100%

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

Yes, inconsistent.

He is all time INT leader bc no other CB has that many years here.



LOL. And what does that say about those guys?? As many players that have played in our secondary, he has outlasted all of them because he is inconsistent??

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

Can you remind me of this? What happened?

http://sports.espn.g...tory?id=5872686

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

LOL. And what does that say about those guys?? As many players that have played in our secondary, he has outlasted all of them because he is inconsistent??


Do you watch football? when was the last time we brought in/drafted a decent DB prospect???

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

This.

Agree 100%


Agreed, thats a great way to put it. Im not against releasing Gamble because its the right move for the team. He is expendable because our front seven has improved dramatically and makes things easier on our secondary. But all this down talking is real far fetched and sounds more like self opinion. You cant look at his career stats and say he hasnt been a great player for us or he would have been gone.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

Do you watch football? when was the last time we brought in/drafted a decent DB prospect???


Why yes i do.

Ken Lucas ring a bell (free agent)? Richard Marshall was good when he first got drafted (second round pick) he wasnt worth keeping was he? Sherrod Martin was drafted as a corner but he was a better safety so he got moved. Now he is FA who wont be resigned (second round pick). Not decent for you? That aint Gambles fault that Hurney never addressed the position right, is it Steve Smiths fault will still dont have a number 2 receiver?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

LOL. And what does that say about those guys?? As many players that have played in our secondary, he has outlasted all of them because he is inconsistent??


We are a young franchise.....2-3 yrs in and guys can climb to the #2 spots in various statistical categories.

Gamble is decent....can be very very good. He was paid to be very very good. Did that one year. Inconsistent.

Peppers was inconsistent. He played at a higher level than Gamble. Just bc you can be great or good doesn't some how mean you can't be inconsistent.

When you lose a consistent and great player....it is very glaring. Beason for example in 2011. D has often been better when Gamble was out and he was replaced by a scrub

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

Do you watch football? when was the last time we brought in/drafted a decent DB prospect???

Captain and Marshall were both decent....problem was Carolina asked nickel CBs to be more. They aren't.

Ken Lucas was plenty solid for a bit

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

We are a young franchise.....2-3 yrs in and guys can climb to the #2 spots in various statistical categories.

Gamble is decent....can be very very good. He was paid to be very very good. Did that one year. Inconsistent.

Peppers was inconsistent. He played at a higher level than Gamble. Just bc you can be great or good doesn't some how mean you can't be inconsistent.

When you lose a consistent and great player....it is very glaring. Beason for example in 2011. D has often been better when Gamble was out and he was replaced by a scrub


If he only had one good year, what did he do his first couple years? What first round picks stick around this long that our only decent?

The D was better because the front seven was better. WE HAVE 2 OF THE BEST DEs in the league. Maybe 3 next year. The steelers have been consistently ranked in the top 5 of pass defense the last couple years and you really cant name anyone in their secondary outside of Polamalu. You can win with mediocrity in the secondary if you can get to the QB consistently, this is well known. Im not knocking it, i like our defense better like this. But Im not gonna discredit Gamble for being a great player tho. He would still be on the team if wasnt for cap issues.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

"The way to fix the defensive backs and line is to get another linebacker." - Marty Hurney

Why are we expecting the same dealy? Everything's going to change and it starts with Gamble.

I'm so glad we're not doing anymore of that "bring back your core players" nonsense.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

Captain and Marshall were both decent....problem was Carolina asked nickel CBs to be more. They aren't.

Ken Lucas was plenty solid for a bit


So you are saying there is a difference in the way Carolina uses nickel backs compared to the rest of the league? You would think we would have more success than other teams then. I thought they were premium for the passing league now a days anyway? I would like to know how. And Ken Lucas had one good season here (playoffs 2005) then he went downhill. Was paid a lot of MONEY.