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No fine for shoving a ref to the ground during the Super Bowl


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#25 jtnc

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:58 PM

We have videos of both altercations. We really don't need to simplify it. Both actions were stupid and clear violations. Cam's was more disrespectful and unsportsmanlike. It's like everyone is forgetting that Cam wasn't flagged for the contact, but for being disrespectful to the official. I'd like to think he wouldn't have gotten the fine if it weren't for that flag. Point is, there was more to it than just contact so these two scenarios aren't really the same.

Total bullshit, and you know it. Williams pushed the ref as you would push someone in a fight, Williams contact was way more malicious than Cam's, and even AFTER the ref tried to calm him down, he still was going after the 49ers players and he still didn't get a flag.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

I don't understand how you don't get a flag for unsportsmanlike, when he persistently tried to provoke them.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

Total bullshit, and you know it. Williams pushed the ref as you would push someone in a fight, Williams contact was way more malicious than Cam's, and even AFTER the ref tried to calm him down, he still was going after the 49ers players and he still didn't get a flag.


My point is still the same. These two scenarios can't be compared just because of the contact.

Never did I say Williams did nothing wrong. I do think what Cam did was worse.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

No, I'm not. Because it was a mistake, it wasn't rude and inappropriate?

I don't know what your definitions of the words "disrespectful" and "unsportsmanlike" are, but I'm not calling Cam the devil. These were the exact words used by the ref that flagged him either way.


Bottom line, neither of us were down there on the field with Boger and Cam. Nor were the idiotic sports analysts.

No point on arguing with you, because clearly you already have a flawed judgement made up in your mind.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

Bottom line, neither of us were down there on the field with Boger and Cam. Nor were the idiotic sports analysts.

No point on arguing with you, because clearly you already have a flawed judgement made up in your mind.


It's not flawed. We just disagree. These are opinions after all considering we weren't on the field.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:34 PM

It's not flawed. We just disagree. These are opinions after all considering we weren't on the field.


Well, you were the first to go off on a diatribe about the matter.

You should know the ways of the huddle by now. People will call out your posts, quick change the subject again.

Nice edit. :)

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

Well, you were the first to go off on a diatribe about the matter.

You should know the ways of the huddle by now. People will call out your posts, quick change the subject again.

Nice edit. :)


Yeah, my post was basically a lame "umad" argument, so I changed it.

I just don't see what this has to do with Cam or the NFL though. It's the ref that decided not to throw the flag on Williams. Throw a flag, get a bunch of replays shown, NFL will notice and issue a fine. I don't know what happened on the field between them, the same way I don't know exactly what happened between Cam and Boger. So I just might be talking out of my ass then.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:49 PM

Yeah, my post was basically a lame "umad" argument, so I changed it.

I just don't see what this has to do with Cam or the NFL though. It's the ref that decided not to throw the flag on Williams. Throw a flag, get a bunch of replays shown, NFL will notice and issue a fine.


If the Williams incident had occured in any game but the superbowl I have no doubt there would have been a fine and possible ejections. The NFL doesn't want the bad publicity in one of the biggest sporting events on the planet.

If they don't address it then it is forgotten.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

If the Williams incident had occured in any game but the superbowl I have no doubt there would have been a fine and possible ejections. The NFL doesn't want the bad publicity in one of the biggest sporting events on the planet. If they don't address it then it is forgotten.


Maybe the NFL just doesn't notice these things without the flags and replays.

We might be giving them too much credit.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 03:06 PM

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Williams deserved to be fined, as did Newton.

So why wasn't he? Unknown. Florio thinks it's face saving by the league since no flags were thrown when there should have been. My best guess would be the ref in question said "no big deal" or some such.

Not a big concern to me, either way.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:43 PM

Since when was this a grey area? A push directly to the chest of an official, hard enough to knock him back a couple of steps, and no flag.

Cam's flag was apparently for what he said. But you can't tell me that players don't mouth off to officials every week with no flags. I agree with most, that it was not called simply because it was the Super Bowl.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

My point is still the same. These two scenarios can't be compared just because of the contact.

Never did I say Williams did nothing wrong. I do think what Cam did was worse.



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