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David Perdue was on his way to sneak in some surfing before work Thursday morning when police flagged him down. They asked who he was and where he was headed, then sent him on his way.

Seconds later, Perdue's attorney said, a Torrance police cruiser slammed into his pickup and officers opened fire; none of the bullets struck Perdue.

His pickup, police later explained, matched the description of the one belonging to Christopher Jordan Dorner — the ex-cop who has evaded authorities after allegedly killing three and wounding two more. But the pickups were different makes and colors. And Perdue looks nothing like Dorner: He's several inches shorter and about a hundred pounds lighter. And Perdue is white; Dorner is black.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-torrance-shooting-20130210,0,3955268.story

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/torrance-shooting.html

2nd time it's happened.

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the cops/govt want this guy dead because he has legitimate dirt on them - NOT because he is shooting police officers.

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[quote name='MrTouchdown' timestamp='1360520912' post='2131182']
the cops/govt want this guy dead because he has legitimate dirt on them - NOT because he is shooting police officers.
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that is exactly it. which is why when you hear of a DC madam killing herself etc you know its a lie. when you have the goods on somebody powerful, they are going to snuff you out.

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Yes, a conspiracy theory makes infinitely more sense than A-type personality Cops, high on adrenalin, caffeine and donuts, overreacting in a crises situation.

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The dude said what his motive was. Would the LAPD prefer he come back alive and testify in court and potentially expose them! Not much of a conspiracy on this one.

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Only way dorner comes out alive from this is to turn himself to the feds.

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[quote name='NanuqoftheNorth' timestamp='1360524194' post='2131244']
Yes, a conspiracy theory makes infinitely more sense than A-type personality Cops, high on adrenalin, caffeine and donuts, overreacting in a crises situation.
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I don't know if you're being sarcastic Nanuq, but I respect you man... That being said, I hope you don't really buy that scenario over an actual "conspiracy" theory in this case. The heavily edited manifesto is a prime example that there is something bigger behind all this.

And we're talking about the LAPD. LOL... Not very credible and not an organization I would hold in high regard with their history of cover-ups and corruption. They have run rampant with abuse of power for decades.

None of that justifies what this guy is doing, but, it's clear the story is bigger than "crazy MFer snaps."

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[quote name='Toolbox' timestamp='1360525002' post='2131266']
Only way dorner comes out alive from this is to turn himself to the feds.
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IMO, there is absolutely NO WAY he is taken in alive even if they apprehended him as such.

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[quote name='pstall' timestamp='1360524951' post='2131264']
The dude said what his motive was. Would the LAPD prefer he come back alive and testify in court and potentially expose them! Not much of a conspiracy on this one.
[/quote]Yes because this irrational killer of innocent children makes such a believable paragon of truth and justice. No need to be skeptical of his manifesto. No possibility his recent behavior may be indicative of serious long term mental issues. It is simply that corrupt officials at the LAPD pushed him too far! And now it is time to get even! WTF? OK Dirty Harry.
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Let's just say for a moment this guy is telling the truth. If he had any damning evidence that the LAPD should fear, why hasn't he made it public in the four plus years since he was terminated from the department? There are plenty of private citizens, public officials, news agencies and a vast numbers of other organizations that would love to be credited with helping to expose corruption in the LAPD. Anyone actually committed to truth and justice would never consider killing innocent civilians to make a point. In his warped mind, he believes he has damning evidence, trust me he doesn't. He is a certifiable wackadoodle. These are REAL LIVES he is taking. He should not be revered, he should be reviled.

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Agreed.

As much as the media generally likes to get at corrupt police, it seems like he could have made a killing by appearing on 60 mins or something like that. Of course, they are reviewing the case again now.

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[quote name='NanuqoftheNorth' timestamp='1360528787' post='2131340']
Let's just say for a moment this guy is telling the truth. If he had any damning evidence that the LAPD should fear, why hasn't he made it public in the four plus years since he was terminated from the department? There are plenty of private citizens, public officials, news agencies and a vast numbers of other organizations that would love to be credited with helping to expose corruption in the LAPD. Anyone actually committed to truth and justice would never consider killing innocent civilians to make a point. In his warped mind, he believes he has damning evidence, trust me he doesn't. He is a certifiable wackadoodle. These are REAL LIVES he is taking. He should not be revered, he should be reviled.[/quote]

I'd have to agree.

Read his "manifesto". The guy comes across as a complete narcissist, and definitely several cards short of a full deck. Everything that ever happened to him is everybody's fault but his own, and he portrays himself in this story as if he were .the most important man in the world

(the section where he details how he will make "high profile targets" of blacks, hispanics, asians and lesbians on the force who have all - in his mind - contributed to the racism that was going on is particularly telling)

He's had the chance to appeal through different avenues, and so far nobody has found him credible. The fact that he actually seems to believe he can gain credibility and "reset the moral compass" by murdering innocent people pretty much tells me all I need to know about him.

Are there bad things happening in the LAPD? Probably, but this guy's no crusader and certainly no hero. If anything, I'd call him a serial killer, and arguably the most dangerous one in decades. I suspect in the end, if it comes down to it, he'll kill himself rather than be captured (of course the tinfoil hat club won't believe it).

Bottom Line: The guy considers the killing of innocent people acceptable and "necessary" as long as it advances his agenda. That's a sign of someone whose goal is revenge, not justice.

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[quote name='Proudiddy' timestamp='1360527463' post='2131324']
I don't know if you're being sarcastic Nanuq, but I respect you man... That being said, I hope you don't really buy that scenario over an actual "conspiracy" theory in this case. The heavily edited manifesto is a prime example that there is something bigger behind all this.

And we're talking about the LAPD. LOL... Not very credible and not an organization I would hold in high regard with their history of cover-ups and corruption. They have run rampant with abuse of power for decades.

None of that justifies what this guy is doing, but, it's clear the story is bigger than "crazy MFer snaps."
[/quote]Tell me that there is corruption in the one of the largest police forces in the USA, and I'll respond, "What else is new?" Tell me the leadership of the LAPD is corrupt to the core and I won't bat an eyelash. Tell me an ex cop and military officer that believes deeply in truth and justice is killing innocent people because it is the only way to uncover corruption and I'll throw the BS flag every time.

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the guy is off his rocker no doubt. its not often guys like this go to this extreme and harm civilians.

this isn't the only way to uncover corruption.

im sure he has dirt. to what level and on whom, i don't think thats going to come out. this scenario has greek tragedy written all over it.

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[quote name='pstall' timestamp='1360532508' post='2131389']
the guy is off his rocker no doubt. its not often guys like this go to this extreme and harm civilians.

this isn't the only way to uncover corruption.

im sure he has dirt. to what level and on whom, i don't think thats going to come out. this scenario has greek tragedy written all over it.
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It isn't [i]any[/i] way to uncover corruption.

I don't give a rat's ass if he has the full story behind the Kennedy assassination. Killing innocent people puts him in the same category as the Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh or any of the other wackos with "a cause".

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im not condoning this at all. use some logic here guys. he may know a ton, he may not. we don't really know at this point.

never in a million years would i stand behind somebody like this to justify a sliver of what they are doing. never.

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[quote name='pstall' timestamp='1360534312' post='2131411']
im not condoning this at all. use some logic here guys. he may know a ton, he may not. we don't really know at this point.

never in a million years would i stand behind somebody like this to justify a sliver of what they are doing. never.
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Thanks for clarifying. Didn't seem like a view you'd take, but the prior post made me wonder.

From what I read in his manifesto, I have a feeling a lot of "what he knows" happened only in his head.

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Jesus Tittyfuging Christ enough with the conspiracies.

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It isn't [i]any[/i] way to uncover corruption.

I don't give a rat's ass if he has the full story behind the Kennedy assassination. Killing innocent people puts him in the same category as the Unabomber, Timothy McVeigh, the United States government or any of the other wackos with "a cause".
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[quote name='Carolina Husker' timestamp='1360536797' post='2131458']
Jesus Tittyfuging Christ enough with the conspiracies.
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Conspiracy.

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[quote name='Carolina Husker' timestamp='1360536797' post='2131458']
Jesus Tittyfuging Christ enough with the conspiracies.
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Yeah you lose me as well when you decide the rational response will be to kill a cops daughter and her fiance. Despite the wrongs he encountered, taking action at those who did not have any control in his "wronged experience" destroys and confuses his narrative.

I feel his gripes are legit, he has seen some underhanded decisions to shun a lot of the gripes but has created his own miopic "world against me" senario to justify this action.

So in essense this is a soup of corrupt establishment + paranoid Commando with access to weapons = this situation.

No need for conspiracies but he will be dead no matter the situation and he knows it.

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