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Espn insider:do not cut deangelo williams

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http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8932280/which-high-priced-players-cut-which-kept-nfl

[b]Don't cut: [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9613/deangelo-williams"]DeAngelo Williams[/url][/b]
[color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]The Panthers have 47 running backs, and they have work to do with the passing game, which is why they also have a new GM. But they should at least look to restructure the deal of the back who was easily the best one on the roster in 2012. Cutting Williams saves about $4.8M against the 2013 cap, but [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11247/jonathan-stewart"]Jonathan Stewart[/url][color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3] and [/size][/font][/color][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/11658/mike-tolbert"]Mike Tolbert[/url][color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3] were far less efficient.[/size][/font][/color]

[color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]I ve seen tons of arguements for why we should cut him. But very few saying why we s[/size][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]hould keep him... what say you[/size][/font][/color]

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I'd like to keep him if we can restructure and give him more than 7 to 10 carries a game. If not then he is being wasted here and I would like to see him go to a team like Denver that will give him 20+ a game.

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I'm glad I don't pay to read ESPN insider if that's what they're publishing

rotoworld, a free website, has [url="http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3611/deangelo-williams"]a much more in depth explanation[/url] of the cap ramifications of cutting Williams

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I'd love to keep him here

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When this team will be a legit title contender in a few years, Deangelo isn't going to be the RB of that team, it will be Stewart

So just get rid of Deangelo now, save the money, use it where it's needed more than RB, and let Stewart grow along with Cam and the rest of the offense

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[quote name='tukafan21' timestamp='1360564206' post='2131751']
When this team will be a legit title contender in a few years, Deangelo isn't going to be the RB of that team, it will be Stewart

So just get rid of Deangelo now, save the money, use it where it's needed more than RB, and let Stewart grow along with Cam and the rest of the offense
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Stewart cant even stay on the field, why should we put all our chips in him?
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Stewart cant even stay on the field, why should we put all our chips in him?
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Before this season he missed two games in his entire career

Then he had both a high ankle and regular ankle sprain on the same play that essentially finished his season due to our record, I'm sure he would have been able to play had we been in the playoff hunt.

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[quote name='CPF4LIFE' timestamp='1360564444' post='2131753']



Stewart cant even stay on the field, why should we put all our chips in him?
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EAT THEM! EAT ALL OF THE CHIPS, MR STEWART! THEY MUST ALL BE IN YOU!

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Put the chips on the OL and it makes less difference who you have back there--Tauren Poole could average 3.5 yards a game like DW did. Most RBs hit the wall at 30, and DW is no different. If it were up to me, I would rarely sign a RB to a second contract. There are too many decent backs out there, while good OL are hard to find.



(As for the ever so humorous attempt to derail this thread by a moderator, why are some of the moderators the biggest pricks on this forum? Sorry in advance to all the kids out there trying to discuss and learn about the Panthers. There are some unbalanced dweebs who were not breast fed that feel a need to measure their self worth by throwing zingers at others to get pie from other pricks. In person, I doubt they are like that at all because their employers, probably all a part of the dynamic fast food industry, do not have dental plans for part timers working their way through CPCC's GED program.)
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Cam is our best runner. We just need an adequate RB.
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Nutz

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I'm all for deangelo staying. We just need to give him more carries. I hope this year we lean more on the run game and use play action more. I honestly believe that if we run deangelo right, he will have a 1,000 yard year. He is nowhere near being finished. About the cap? That's not my job to worry about it. I'll leave that up to the powers that be.

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So when you pay for ESPN Insider it has articles advising NFL executives about their rosters?! Interesting..

So its like the Huddle minus the frequency.

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[quote name='TANTRIC-NINJA' timestamp='1360585454' post='2131787']
So when you pay for ESPN Insider it has articles advising NFL executives about their rosters?! Interesting..

So its like the Huddle minus the frequency.
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...and tittays

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This is the type of stuff "Insiders" pay for? I could have told you all of that for free.

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Keep him and re-structure, but give him more than 7-8 carries a game.

I am concerned about how injury prone Stewart seems to be... even when he's not missing games he always seems to be nursing some sort of injury.

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[quote name='Zod' timestamp='1360585525' post='2131788']


...and tittays
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Huddle is the big Winner!

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DeAngelo was awesome against the worst D in NFL history....but that was about it.

We just need to invest in the OL. Not RBs.
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We need OL no doubt, but we still need every play maker we can keep!

My main problem is that since the contract it take DeAngelo 6 games to get into shape it seems.. He breaks zero tackles, accelerates slowly but then is a different guy toward the end. I just think he is a guy who naturally lays back too much and tou have to get on him early to get him to focus..hopefully(if he is on the roster) he does that from the start in 2013.

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[quote name='TANTRIC-NINJA' timestamp='1360585454' post='2131787']
So when you pay for ESPN Insider it has articles advising NFL executives about their rosters?! Interesting..

So its like the Huddle minus the frequency.
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Well, it comes free with the subscription which is fairly cheap. The only thing that I don't like about the mag is the relatively small font size for these aging eyes (but that's most print media).LOL At least I can read Insider's crap easily by increasing the size with the "Ctrl" and "+" buttons. LOL






In regards to Deangelo, the Insider is missing the mark, insinuating that J-Stew and Tolbert, along with Armond Smith will not be effective. All of our RBs were not nearly as effective as they could be during the first half of the season because of play calling. Stew got hurt before the coaches remembered the running game still existed. I would love to keep D-Will if we could work it out, but Stew is younger and stronger, and arguably a better pass catcher. D-Will's gonna have to take a marked pay cut.
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We probably have about the same cap relief from a restructuring as we do cutting him outright. He's still a good player, and I think we should keep him and try to fix the O-line.

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Love these conversations from the fanbase.

Same fan base who fell all over themselves slobbering about "double trouble". Same fan base that wants to sign every FA and every cut from other teams.

Same fan base that is only now realizing, like Hurney who was let go, what the rest of the league already knew. Big money RB's went out of style 5-10 yrs back. Course the panthers are $50 million and 5 years late to that realization.

At this point, picking out any RB who will lead us to the "promise land" only proves that you are still stuck in the Hurney mindset.

Business, it is a business. At this point, the business view would be that you are stuck with Williams. So, trade Stewart, let Dwill thing run its course and never get in this type of bind again.

Gettleman has the right idea. Big guys, QB's, WR's is where the money should be spent. If in a few years, the league changes a bunch of rules, it might dictate a different approach, but for now, I think he gets it, unlike the "double trouble" crowd here

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[quote name='stirs' timestamp='1360588750' post='2131810']
Business, it is a business. At this point, the business view would be that you are stuck with Williams. So, trade Stewart, let Dwill thing run its course and never get in this type of bind again.
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Trading Stewart would give us negative cap room at this point. Probably not a good idea.

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No, from a business point, we should keep Stew. Don't get lost in the forest for the trees.

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