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#46 SOJA

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:02 AM

Cam is our best runner. We just need an adequate RB.



but do we want him to be our best runner is a separate question. I agree that I think Stew and Tolbert are more than adequate to handle the load, but as Cam career progresses I would like to see his running become more of a rarity than commonplace

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:08 AM

I am all for keeping Deangelo another year if we can find a way to. Imo he is much more of a homerun threat than Stewart.

Deangelo has been more productive than Stewart since Rivera's arrival as well.

Heres combined rushing stats for both since 2011(Rivera's arriva).

Stewart
915 snaps
235 carries
1111 Yards
4.72 yards per carry
Longest run 32 yards
5 Rushing TD's
635 yards after contact
2 Fumbles

Williams
883 snaps
328 carries
1587 yards
4.83 yards per carry
Longest run 74 yards (he had at least a handful of others that beat Stewart's long of 32 as well)
12 rushing TD'S.
1017 yards after contact


This is just rushing yards, right? What about pass catching? You have to get the entire picture. But, even with the stats you presented, looking at Stew's age and contract, I'm taking Stew. I would love to keep Deangelo, but he would have to take a pay cut, and the money that some other needy team may be willing to pay him might be too good for him to pass up.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:24 AM

but do we want him to be our best runner is a separate question. I agree that I think Stew and Tolbert are more than adequate to handle the load, but as Cam career progresses I would like to see his running become more of a rarity than commonplace


Every time he was dinged up last year was in the pocket.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:27 AM

In 12 Stewart was targeted 22 times and had 157 yards receiving. In 11 he had 57 targets for 457 yards.

Combined thats 79 targets for 614 yards

In 12 Williams targetd 19 times for 187 yards receiving. In 11 he had 24 targets and 179 yards.

Combined thats 43 targets for 366 yards.

They both had 2 Recieving TD's a piece over the last 2 years.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:37 AM

Just think of how many more all-purpose yards Stew would have racked up if it hadn't been for the ankle. He is just a more complete and prototypical back in my opinion. D-Will still has something left in the tank though, so either someone is gonna get a helluva back, or we are going to get a hometown discount luxury option.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Damn if 3.5 ydc is the most efficient RB we had last year, no wonder we sucked.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

but do we want him to be our best runner is a separate question. I agree that I think Stew and Tolbert are more than adequate to handle the load, but as Cam career progresses I would like to see his running become more of a rarity than commonplace


Well, that was a question to ask around the time we drafted Cam. We drafted him....that makes him the best and most dangerous part of our rush attack.

By the time it is realistic to start removing him as he ages away from that....Double Trouble won't be RBs in the NFL

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

I love DWill and hope we keep him but he's old and over paid.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:37 PM

Of course am hoping and trust the new GM makes the right decision. The cap situation does suck. That being said, from the outside looking in it does seam and appear to me the Deangelo makes more and has the most big play potential when he touches the ball more so than Stewart and the other RB's on the roster.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

The real question is: Are you building a team to win now or are you building for the future?

If you're trying to win now there is no way you boot DeAngelo. You don't eject your home run hitters before a run for a championship. I also don't think that they brought Jim Skipper back just to let DeAngelo go. I think this team is in win now mode and wanted Skipper back to help reignite their two star backs and help Shula with the run offense. Although some restructuring may be in order I doubt we've seen the last of Double Trouble.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

The real question is: Are you building a team to win now or are you building for the future?

If you're trying to win now there is no way you boot DeAngelo. You don't eject your home run hitters before a run for a championship. I also don't think that they brought Jim Skipper back just to let DeAngelo go. I think this team is in win now mode and wanted Skipper back to help reignite their two star backs and help Shula with the run offense. Although some restructuring may be in order I doubt we've seen the last of Double Trouble.


Well, I think win now mode means.....the 2013, 2014, 2015 window.

Tolbert, Williams, Stewart trio don't need to be together in that window if we are serious about winning. Our cap situation is much worse in 2014 than 2013.

We need to start adding guys that play.....not watch from the sideline with our money.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:58 PM

Am I the only one here who loves our loaded back field of Cam/Dwill/Stew/Tolbert? If they can only be utilized correctly...

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:58 PM

rather spend that money on a beast OG and #2 TE

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:04 PM

Am I the only one here who loves our loaded back field of Cam/Dwill/Stew/Tolbert? If they can only be utilized correctly...



If anybody here still remembers Nick Goings you'd never discount the importance of having that good forth or fifth RB.

He saved us when all the backs went down and had a good season and helped us limp into the playoffs that year if I remember correctly.

I'd keep em' stash them on special teams or something, but you need those guys when the chips are down.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

Am I the only one here who loves our loaded back field of Cam/Dwill/Stew/Tolbert? If they can only be utilized correctly...


Impossible to use them all correctly. Simply too many runners. You overpay.


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