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Hurney, the worst contract negotiator of all time? Panthers in worse cap shape in 2014

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New Carolina general manager Dave Gettleman inherited some significant issues as well, with his team about $19 million over the cap; Carolina projects even worse against the 2014 cap, and a year from now also serves as the first time Cam Newton can renegotiate his bargain rookie deal, which means tough decisions ahead for the Panthers. Corner Chris Gamble makes nearly $8 million, and offensive lineman Jordan Gross makes nearly $9 million -- expect restructurings if not at a cut there. It's hard to imagine DeAngelo Williams making another $5 million there given all of the running backs the Panthers are paying and his declining output, while in 2014 defensive end Charles Johnson and safety Charles Godfrey will account for nearly $15 million in base salary combined.

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http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/21676714/jets-cowboys-among-many-teams-in-sticky-cap-quandaries

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i think agents for players would disagree. they probably loved "negotiating" with him.
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Who ever gave A-fraud his deal is probably the worst.


Hurney maybe second.

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Godfrey won't be here for long either... let the rebuild begin. I welcome you.
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[quote name='Vampire the buffet slayer' timestamp='1360617923' post='2132271']
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I think Hurney and the players are ran a scheme on JR.......kinda like this.

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Godfrey is relatively cheap from a cap perspective for one more season. After this season, he is either restructured or cut. This is a make or break year for him.

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Hurney screwed us. No doubt

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Godfrey's contract will make this coming season his last in Carolina imo, especially if DJ Campbell shows the coaches what they want to see out of the position.

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I miss the debates on Hurney like 2 years ago :(

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Damn, did the hurn dog work off commission or something?

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Ugh

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He was in over his head.

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14 is the year we should try to trade Beason and Williams if a restructure isnt done

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Hang on, is the search button working? Seems like I remember a post or 2 saying Hurney was great with the cap.

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I really think some of you guys get overly worked up about the salary cap, shocking i know.

So since we are doomed with no hope, who will be the first to drink the poisoned punch?

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When did he ever not spend just about the absolute limit he could under the cap? And when did he fail to restructure contracts in a way that allowed him to keep the vets, sign second-tier free agents, and sign all the rookies?

The point here isn't that Hurney needs defending, it's that what he left is the sort of thing that NFL GM's face every year, and they employ salary cap experts to help them navigate the challenges. We all know that some of the posters here have their panties in a bunch over everything [s]Fox[/s] Hurney did, but let it go. It's on Gettleman now, and if he can't figure out a way to work through the current issues, he should be fired immediately.

For what it's worth, I bet in 3-4 years we're still up against the cap, and this time it will be on Gettleman contracts. That's because he works for the same guy Hurney did, and has the same guidelines.

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[quote name='Cyberjag' timestamp='1360620696' post='2132317']
When did he ever not spend just about the absolute limit he could under the cap? And when did he fail to restructure contracts in a way that allowed him to keep the vets, sign second-tier free agents, and sign all the rookies?

The point here isn't that Hurney needs defending, it's that what he left is the sort of thing that NFL GM's face every year, and they employ salary cap experts to help them navigate the challenges. We all know that some of the posters here have their panties in a bunch over everything [s]Fox[/s] Hurney did, but let it go. It's on Gettleman now, and if he can't figure out a way to work through the current issues, he should be fired immediately.

For what it's worth, I bet in 3-4 years we're still up against the cap, and this time it will be on Gettleman contracts. That's because he works for the same guy Hurney did, and has the same guidelines.
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Hurney over spent on average players, what GM would give Godfrey that type of deal? Or invest over 45 million in guaranteed money to RB's? As a GM, you have to know when to let go of certain players, do the Pats face the same challenge every year? How about the Eagles?

They don't. Because they know how to manipulate contracts, and when to let go of vets.
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lol defender of the fox/hurney legacy.
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LOL at people who just can't let it go. :)
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[quote name='jtgreensboro' timestamp='1360621039' post='2132321']
Hurney over spent on average players, what GM would give Godfrey that type of deal? Or invest over 45 million in guaranteed money to RB's? As a GM, you have to know when to let go of certain players, do the Pats face the same challenge every year? How about the Eagles?

They don't. Because they know how to manipulate contracts, and when to let go of vets.
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I think Hurney did a good job at manipulating contracts, and a terrible job of knowing when to let go of vets.

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[quote name='Cyberjag' timestamp='1360621141' post='2132323']
LOL at people who just can't let it go. :)
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lol, at being blind that we're in this situation because of Hurney.

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[quote name='Peppers90 NC' timestamp='1360620288' post='2132309']
14 is the year we should try to trade Beason and Williams if a restructure isnt done
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You can't trade a 31 yr old RB with a fat contract

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Eh, he did some bad stuff, but he got Cam and Kuechly while rarely missing in the first. He probably should have been fired, but he is not the unholy abomination that some people want to be all dramatic and bitch about. There have been numerous GMs recently that are/were worse than him.

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[quote name='Stroupe-a-loop' timestamp='1360621319' post='2132328']
Eh, he did some bad stuff, but he got Cam and Kuechly while rarely missing in the first. He probably should have been fired, but he is not the unholy abomination that some people want to be all dramatic and bitch about. There have been numerous GMs recently that are/were worse than him.
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How many winning seasons? I'll wait.

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