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Hurney, the worst contract negotiator of all time? Panthers in worse cap shape in 2014

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He was in over his head.

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14 is the year we should try to trade Beason and Williams if a restructure isnt done

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Hang on, is the search button working? Seems like I remember a post or 2 saying Hurney was great with the cap.

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I really think some of you guys get overly worked up about the salary cap, shocking i know.

So since we are doomed with no hope, who will be the first to drink the poisoned punch?

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When did he ever not spend just about the absolute limit he could under the cap? And when did he fail to restructure contracts in a way that allowed him to keep the vets, sign second-tier free agents, and sign all the rookies?

The point here isn't that Hurney needs defending, it's that what he left is the sort of thing that NFL GM's face every year, and they employ salary cap experts to help them navigate the challenges. We all know that some of the posters here have their panties in a bunch over everything Fox Hurney did, but let it go. It's on Gettleman now, and if he can't figure out a way to work through the current issues, he should be fired immediately.

For what it's worth, I bet in 3-4 years we're still up against the cap, and this time it will be on Gettleman contracts. That's because he works for the same guy Hurney did, and has the same guidelines.

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When did he ever not spend just about the absolute limit he could under the cap? And when did he fail to restructure contracts in a way that allowed him to keep the vets, sign second-tier free agents, and sign all the rookies?

The point here isn't that Hurney needs defending, it's that what he left is the sort of thing that NFL GM's face every year, and they employ salary cap experts to help them navigate the challenges. We all know that some of the posters here have their panties in a bunch over everything Fox Hurney did, but let it go. It's on Gettleman now, and if he can't figure out a way to work through the current issues, he should be fired immediately.

For what it's worth, I bet in 3-4 years we're still up against the cap, and this time it will be on Gettleman contracts. That's because he works for the same guy Hurney did, and has the same guidelines.

Hurney over spent on average players, what GM would give Godfrey that type of deal? Or invest over 45 million in guaranteed money to RB's? As a GM, you have to know when to let go of certain players, do the Pats face the same challenge every year? How about the Eagles?

They don't. Because they know how to manipulate contracts, and when to let go of vets.

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lol defender of the fox/hurney legacy.

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LOL at people who just can't let it go. :)

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Hurney over spent on average players, what GM would give Godfrey that type of deal? Or invest over 45 million in guaranteed money to RB's? As a GM, you have to know when to let go of certain players, do the Pats face the same challenge every year? How about the Eagles?

They don't. Because they know how to manipulate contracts, and when to let go of vets.

I think Hurney did a good job at manipulating contracts, and a terrible job of knowing when to let go of vets.

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LOL at people who just can't let it go. :)

lol, at being blind that we're in this situation because of Hurney.

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14 is the year we should try to trade Beason and Williams if a restructure isnt done

You can't trade a 31 yr old RB with a fat contract

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Eh, he did some bad stuff, but he got Cam and Kuechly while rarely missing in the first. He probably should have been fired, but he is not the unholy abomination that some people want to be all dramatic and bitch about. There have been numerous GMs recently that are/were worse than him.

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