Nerlens Noel vs. Ben McLemore vs. Shabazz Muhammed.

[carolina-chuck 2,761]

I very much disagree with the sentence that I have in bold.

It's not clear who is the better player. I personally believe that Bazz is the better player because he is capable of scoring in so many different ways. I've watched quite a few UCLA and Kansas games and I feel like UCLA has the worst possible offense for Bazz and Kansas has the best possible offense for McLemore. All I see is McLemore constantly coming off screens, while I see Bazz creating his own offense most of the time via driving, posting up, pulling up, etc. Not that there is anything wrong with McLemore constantly coming off of screens, because that is how he is best utilized, but I feel that he is more of a system player than Shabazz is. In saying that, I think that you can plug Shabazz into any system and I'm not sure that the same is true for McLemore.

Everyone is constantly talking about McLemore being this amazing athlete, and yeah he's a really good athlete, but he rarely shows it... he's not next level like some here think. I just think that Bazz is more explosive and is able to do a wider array of things. Also, I'm not sure what's up with people saying that McLemore is the next Ray Allen or that Bazz's jumper is no where close to McLemore... all flat out wrong imo. I guess we'll see as time goes by...

Lol. You bolded my statement and then turn right back and say the same thing that Bazz is better than McLemore. Didn't u just say that its not clear who's the better player yet? Lol just messing with u

But I think it's very fair to say that Ben is Ray Allen like. Everytime i look at Ben shoot the ball, i see a Ray Allen release. He alsi is someone who comes off the screen. Though he will be able to do more than Ray bc of his athletic abilities.

For Bazz, I see a lot of Andre Iguodala. Lemme know what you think.

[ZB1224 105]

Lol. You bolded my statement and then turn right back and say the same thing that Bazz is better than McLemore. Didn't u just say that its not clear who's the better player yet? Lol just messing with u

But I think it's very fair to say that Ben is Ray Allen like. Everytime i look at Ben shoot the ball, i see a Ray Allen release. He alsi is someone who comes off the screen. Though he will be able to do more than Ray bc of his athletic abilities.

For Bazz, I see a lot of Andre Iguodala. Lemme know what you think.

Lol well to be fair I stated that I *think* that Bazz is better. I guess we won't really find out for awhile though.

I'm really hesitant to compare players to Ray Allen since EVERY draft someone is compared to Ray Allen and they never live up to the hype. I do think that McLemore is a better prospect than Beal is, but I need to see more before I say that he's on Ray Allen's level.

I definitely don't agree with the Andre Iguodala comparison, because Iggy is a very good all around player and an average scorer at best. Shabazz has a scorers mentality and is constantly looking to attack. He's really aggressive on offense, while Iggy isn't. That's one reason that I want Bazz -- we need a super aggressive player on offense to help out Kemba and give us a true #1 option (I personally feel that Kemba is a very good #3 option, but I wouldn't really feel comfortable with him as our best #2 scorer). McLemore would kinda just fit in, but not really stand out as a superstar imo. I do think that all three of these players (Noel, Mc, and Bazz) will be all-stars, but only 1 will be a superstar imo and that is Bazz.

[GamecockSmitty4 340]

Shabazz is a volume scorer. Nothing about his game says Iggy.

[ZB1224 105]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/226098/Noel-Out-For-Season-With-Torn-ACL

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[yasuhara2241 705]

You know what's exciting?

Kemba

McLemore or Shabazz

MKG

Biz

This is the most promising young core that we have ever had! I still lean more to Shabazz for the shot creativity that ZB talks about, but like chuck said who could say no to a pure shooter with athleticism!

And now with our Portland pick lets take a flyer on an injured Noel

[carolina-chuck 2,761]

Shabazz is a volume scorer. Nothing about his game says Iggy.

I Dno. When I watch him plays, I see another SF very similar to Iggy except the defense. He's one who gets his points inside often.

[Herbert The Love Bug 2,313]

Top 3 for me:

1. McLemore
   
2. Anthony Bennett
   
3. Shabazz
   

4 would be Noel

[carolina-chuck 2,761]

You know what's exciting?

Kemba

McLemore or Shabazz

MKG

Biz

This is the most promising young core that we have ever had! I still lean more to Shabazz for the shot creativity that ZB talks about, but like chuck said who could say no to a pure shooter with athleticism!

And now with our Portland pick lets take a flyer on an injured Noel

Lol. Noel will still be a top3. It's the NBA, injury doesn't affect draft status. It's a 5year outlook

[Manos 569]

Lol. Noel will still be a top3. It's the NBA, injury doesn't affect draft status. It's a 5year outlook

Im not saying he will automatically plummet now but injuries(definitely knees) are a bad thing in the nba. Bigs with injury issues rarely pan out(see Oden) so if Noel falls(to like the third or fourth big taken as opposed to the first) it wouldn't shock me.

[carolina-chuck 2,761]

Im not saying he will automatically plummet now but injuries(definitely knees) are a bad thing in the nba. Bigs with injury issues rarely pan out(see Oden) so if Noel falls(to like the third or fourth big taken as opposed to the first) it wouldn't shock me.

But hes not. X-ray were said to be negative and should be ready in 8months. If he do fall, it's not going to be all the way to 14. Maybe 5-7.

[Herbert The Love Bug 2,313]

Noel's ACL injury makes him a no-go for me. I was iffy on him already. No need to take chance on him now

[Manos 569]

But hes not. X-ray were said to be negative and should be ready in 8months. If he do fall, it's not going to be all the way to 14. Maybe 5-7.

Depending on how the season pans out, certain players perform and team needs its possible he could fall to 14(highly unlikely sure).

I don't have an issue with his injury but that doesn't mean nba gms won't. If he did fall and we got him at 14 time to celebrate. It would be like Star falling to the panthers, not going to happen but if it does awesome.