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#31 iamhubby1

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

I will repeat it....in the 14 games against teams that weren't the worst defensive unit in NFL history.....his ypc was 3.3.

The NO games greatly masked how unimpressive he was this year. Those 2 games also caused his ypc to jump a full yard....and most of his TDs as well.


And to answer your question....if I am going to pay money....give me the young RB who fits what the coach ideally wants. That ain't Williams.


Neither of our RBs ran well this year. So either they both need to go, or we need to fix what was wrong. We let Chud go, and will probably address the O-line. Both of those should help our RBs excel again next year. If so, and we can work out something with DWill to alow us to keep him. I will take DWill.

Stew is a fine back, but again, he is no homerun threat. You need homerun threats to compete.

And if you know what the coach ideally wants, you are in rarified air. Because we are in the dark as to what they want at this point. It could be either or both types. Who knows.

I want DWill, you want Stew. Only time will tell who is going to be happiest.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

Neither of our RBs ran well this year. So either they both need to go, or we need to fix what was wrong. We let Chud go, and will probably address the O-line. Both of those should help our RBs excel again next year. If so, and we can work out something with DWill to alow us to keep him. I will take DWill.

Stew is a fine back, but again, he is no homerun threat. You need homerun threats to compete.

And if you know what the coach ideally wants, you are in rarified air. Because we are in the dark as to what they want at this point. It could be either or both types. Who knows.

I want DWill, you want Stew. Only time will tell who is going to be happiest.


Stewart runs better behind a bad OL

Stewart can play through injury better

Stewart is younger

Rivera prefers a healthy Stewart over a healthy Williams. How do I know that? After Williams got his big deal Rivera played Stewart a larger percentage of offensive snaps than any RB in our division. The next year? He went ahead and benched Williams officially.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 09:50 PM

Stewart runs better behind a bad OL

Stewart can play through injury better




Stewart is younger

Rivera prefers a healthy Stewart over a healthy Williams. How do I know that? After Williams got his big deal Rivera played Stewart a larger percentage of offensive snaps than any RB in our division. The next year? He went ahead and benched Williams officially.


And Rivera has made ALOT of decisions that were wrong. We will see if this is another one

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

And Rivera has made ALOT of decisions that were wrong. We will see if this is another one


And a lot of his calls haven't been wrong.....he just didn't have the bodies on the field to pull off some pretty basic stuff.

a lot of the close games we have lost bc we lack talent to play complete games. IMO

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 02:19 AM

And a lot of his calls haven't been wrong.....he just didn't have the bodies on the field to pull off some pretty basic stuff.

a lot of the close games we have lost bc we lack talent to play complete games. IMO


And I would agree with that. I just think if he would have straightened Chud out earlier things could have gone differently. I think that both RB's were put in a hard spot to succeed this year with A)scheme B)limited carries to spread around and C) no oline push. It's unfair that Deangelo's getting crushed on here while Stewart;s getting a pass for doing less. I understand we need to fix the logjam Hurney created and either back's salary for the 5 to 12 carries a game their getting is ridiculous. But people ripping him like Nakamura is BS.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 03:04 AM

Why is everyone obsessing over a "home-run threat"...look at the seasons Alfred Morris and Marshawn Lynch just had. They were 2 of the top 3 HBs statistically in the NFL this year and they're power backs. I think Jonathan Stewart is very similar to Morris/Lynch, a power runner but with deceptive speed and shiftiness. We just need to shore up the o-line and play calling and I'm sure Stewart is gonna tear it up next season barring injury.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:26 AM

Deangelo is gone guys. Stop kidding yourselves.


With the cap hit that cutting him would create, it is not a foregone conclusion that he is released.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 07:27 AM

Stewart runs better behind a bad OL

Stewart can play through injury better

Stewart is younger

Rivera prefers a healthy Stewart over a healthy Williams. How do I know that? After Williams got his big deal Rivera played Stewart a larger percentage of offensive snaps than any RB in our division. The next year? He went ahead and benched Williams officially.


And DeAngelo had a great end to the season behind that "bad" line....so your conclusions are inaccurate.

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:00 AM

And DeAngelo had a great end to the season behind that "bad" line....so your conclusions are inaccurate.


Which specific ones do you find most inaccurate

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Posted 15 February 2013 - 08:30 AM

Which specific ones do you find most inaccurate

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I would just say biased. You're saying that other teams are not going to want to sign DW(4.3 per carry) because if you take away his 2 best games he only averaged 3.3 yds per carry. At the same time Stewart averaged 3.6 and he is is the ideal back. If you take away Stewart's 2 best games(Saints,Skins) he only averaged 3.2 per carry, again less than DW who you say won't garner interest .

So that is obviously a biased statement to say Stew is an ideal back and Deangelo will have a hard time making a roster when using the same criteria for Stew shows he played worse than the guy you're slamming. The only way that is logical is your personal bias. Like I said I get the other points you are making about carries and cap hit.


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