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since many think man invented his own god, although it doesn't make sense he would make a god to tell him not to even lust after a woman, but i digress.

so if that potential is there for a human to invent their own truth, isn't it highly plausible that is what some here are doing? inventing the answers to the questions they don't know?

as i stated earlier. we all will get our fair shake at the how the cosmos play out. spend all the time and energy you want on figuring things out while on terra firma. just don't come up snake eyes at the worst possible time in your existence. all im saying.

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since many think man invented his own god, although it doesn't make sense he would make a god to tell him not to even lust after a woman, but i digress.

so if that potential is there for a human to invent their own truth, isn't it highly plausible that is what some here are doing? inventing the answers to the questions they don't know?

as i stated earlier. we all will get our fair shake at the how the cosmos play out. spend all the time and energy you want on figuring things out while on terra firma. just don't come up snake eyes at the worst possible time in your existence. all im saying.

what about those who question but are led to different answers based on their realm of the human experience?

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if they are seeking, truly seeking, their journey will lead them where they need to go. an answer today, can change a year from now. as long as someone is open to the truth, they will keep on learning and growing and seeing things totally differently.

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if they are seeking, truly seeking, their journey will lead them where they need to go. an answer today, can change a year from now. as long as someone is open to the truth, they will keep on learning and growing and seeing things totally differently.

and where is it that journey will lead all of them who truly seek?

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since many think man invented his own god, although it doesn't make sense he would make a god to tell him not to even lust after a woman, but i digress.

I actually want to revisit this because I don't see the logic behind your argument. How does it *not* make sense for man to invent a god that dictates some level of control over some of our more "base" instincts?

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It's not so much that I don't believe in god, well I don't that's not true, but its more that 99% of followers of any organized religion I've come across are hypocritical, and if there is a god, he is a twisted, twisted being. I also hate how when something unimaginably horrible happens, god had nothing to do with it, but then something good happens, and its like, oh thank god for that. I can't wrap my head around it.

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and where is it that journey will lead all of them who truly seek?

to the truth. truth can't be contained or hidden or locked away. at some point, whether casually or violently, we or it finds us.

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I actually want to revisit this because I don't see the logic behind your argument. How does it *not* make sense for man to invent a god that dictates some level of control over some of our more "base" instincts?

i will ask a question that adds something somebody posted earlier about the invention part, then i will get back to this.

for the inventinon of "god" and the purpose of social control. how many humans were around when "god" was first invented?

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It's not so much that I don't believe in god, well I don't that's not true, but its more that 99% of followers of any organized religion I've come across are hypocritical, and if there is a god, he is a twisted, twisted being. I also hate how when something unimaginably horrible happens, god had nothing to do with it, but then something good happens, and its like, oh thank god for that. I can't wrap my head around it.

what i don't understand is the idea that millions of people across history have prayed to god for help during starvation and genocide and murder and countless other human tragedy and been ignored, but if you pray before your math test you might get a good grade, or if you pray your football career will be blessed by way of touchdowns and championships, or if you got a raise at work it was totally GOD blessing you with money.

it's integral to modern forms of liturgy (worship) in establishment christian circles and i really don't think it makes any sense, even if you accept other facets of theism/christianity

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to the truth. truth can't be contained or hidden or locked away. at some point, whether casually or violently, we or it finds us.

what is the truth? be specific

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