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#16 Hawk

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:29 PM

I don't get it...Rivera thinks we need to look at color when it comes to coaches but not to look at color when it comes to quarterbacks?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:29 PM

To be fair, Newton has indeed given people some ammo to use against him. He has displayed some immaturity, both in college and in his rookie season. Even his Panther teammates, and Newton himself, would testify to that. But then immaturity's not exactly something that any one race has a monopoly on, is it?

Now, as far as building a more positive image, I'd say he's made quite a bit of progress on that front. Enough that I'm satisfied, for certain. Mind you, there will always be some who never let anyone grow past the mistakes of their youth, and of course rival fans will rag on him for past mistakes forever (so what?)

Bottom Line: My hope is to see him continue the trend of improvement on field next year. I doubt he'll ever be one of those guys who always say the right thing to the media (he has a DavidCarr-ish propensity toward saying things that can be taken the wrong way) but the whole "face of the franchise" thing is secondary. What he does on the field comes first.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

Yay, another whine about Cam thread.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

Yay, another whine about Cam thread.

Another BB uninformative post, what a surprise.

#20 Herbert The Love Bug

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

this Florio guy is desperate for attention

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

One day BB is going to astonish me, one day, he'll finally type a post that actually holds merit.


I'm rooting for you BB!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

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Chief difference between he and Newton: Newton is far better at keeping it in his pants.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

To be fair, Newton has indeed given people some ammo to use against him. He has displayed some immaturity, both in college and in his rookie season. Even his Panther teammates, and Newton himself, would testify to that. But then immaturity's not exactly something that any one race has a monopoly on, is it?

Now, as far as building a more positive image, I'd say he's made quite a bit of progress on that front. Enough that I'm satisfied, for certain. Mind you, there will always be some who never let anyone grow past the mistakes of their youth, and of course rival fans will rag on him for past mistakes forever (so what?)

Bottom Line: My hope is to see him continue the trend of improvement on field next year. I doubt he'll ever be one of those guys who always say the right thing to the media (he has a DavidCarr-ish propensity toward saying things that can be taken the wrong way) but the whole "face of the franchise" thing is secondary. What he does on the field comes first.


Nailed it

#24 2jakefansinva

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:00 PM

Okay, laptop big fuging deal, did you not hear about the Alabama players that stole laptop, and used a credit card fraudulently? They were actually charged with burglary, and will be prosecuted. Cam was not.

And people who "know" football, you mean rednecks who live in trailers? Are those the people you're referring to? Those who are pissed Cam destroyed their college team?


Please tell me this is a fuging troll post, or are you just the daily dose of idiot?



I'm not real concerned with what others have done in college or the trouble they've been in unless it's Panther related.
I'm just telling you what I hear from other football fans that bash Cam with the ammo he's given them.

And no, they don't live in trailer parks but, Cam could have pised them off at sometime by beating their team....I don't know.

I actually like the fact that others out there hate my QB............makes it even sweeter with the W.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

nvm.


he passed on hue.

for shula.


that was disheartening.


LOL!!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

Funny he mentions Perry Fewell.

Becare what ya wish for, Ron.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Yay, another whine about Cam thread.


Haha.

Crying about Cam & irrelevant race discussion.

This is a gold mine for certain huddle posters.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:19 PM

Funny he mentions Perry Fewell.

Becare what ya wish for, Ron.

i would cry if we hired perry to be the HC.

and they wouldn't be tears of joy, either.

another DC as HC. that would be depressing.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

How ,much ammo has Cam given them and how much ammo has a misinformed sports media that live in an echo chamber, and can't get basic facts correct because it gets in the way of a good story?

There are two sides to the laptop story. Ultimately the charges were dropped after Cam did a program. But even that is not an admission of guilt. In order to save face these type of deals are often worked out, especially when the police feel they have no case, a weak case, or that it is a waste of their time to prosecute.

The cheating stuff at Florida is a story from a single anonymous source (most publications that are respectable want two separate sources before they will publish a story from anonymous sources), that was never corroborated by anyone as far as I have seen. .

The NCAA never proposed any allegations against Cam Newton and seem to agree that he had no idea any conversations even took place. Equally unclear is who initiated these conversations, the Newton camp or the people representing MSU.

The infamous "entertainer and icon" quote was taken out of context.

The problem is the sports media is like most people, lazy. And they have become reluctant to take on other media entities. Instead of further exploring other media stories, they choose to report on other journalist's reports rather than further investigate the report itself. And then they are in their own echo chamber which begins a media driven narrative that is often based on misinformation.

I don't think Cam gave them ammo as much as the media did a pooty job of doing their job, and were more interesting in attacking the NCAA for not punishing Cam and Auburn than they were getting the facts straight. And the general public were all to eager to go along with them.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:09 PM

"Last season there were 4 African-American HCs out of 32 positions, or 12.5%. African-Americans are 12.4% of the total US population.

Where’s the problem again?"


Liked that comment. Florio is a moron in absolutely every regard. I don't see how it's possible someone is so consistently stupid.


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