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Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:11 PM

and fewell would be a terrible hire but that's irrelevant because in florios eyes its not someone's right to hire the best candidate for the job it's their duty to make sure everybody feels included

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

Cam isn't hated because of his race, I'm fairly certain. Cam is hated because so many people are jealous. The guy is a top high school QB, gets recruited to Florida during the Urban Meyers years, years a National Championship at Auburn in only one year there, gets drafted #1 overall, breaks all sorts of rookie records, breaks all sorts of two year records, huge sponsorship deals, etc.

The game, and everything with it, come so easy to Cam that it grates on peoples' nerves. His smile is so electric, people hate it. He goes back to school, people hate it. Cam is the one guy everyone wants to hate. It's not because of his race, it's because he just damn better than everyone.

While I do partly agree with that but I can't seem to name a white QB off my head that I think is hated just because. Players are normally hated for bad behaviors. I don't think cam has enough resume in the league that warrant hatred. The dude just completed his second season and was hated throughout. And don't give that 'once he makes the playoffs' excuse. Every year there are at least 18 white QBs that do not make the playoffs and I don't think the media is waiting for the moment to love them. Although your comment was well intended but you can't just oversimplify it. Too many excuses.

I think the majority white public find reasons to hate and chastise black players. They find every nonessential crap that happened 15 years ago when the player was 5 to hate on. One thing I do agree completely with you is jealousy is in the center of it all. Complete racial jealousy. Some of those black athletes, like Cam, are complete human freaks. Almost superhero-like. Thus people do try find reason to humanize them.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:14 PM

Look at Wilson, Kaepernick and RGIII. All not-white and loved by the media. Once Cam is in the playoffs, the media will love him too.

I don't think those guys are loved. The media just haven't found justifiable reasons to chastise them. The media also understands that if they attempt to chastise those guys it will raise eyebrow by the black community. Pretty much, the media try to only pick on one black guy at a time. When it comes to Cam they wanna be able to say "well RG3 is black, we're not picking on him so we're not racist. We only hate Cam because he put a towel over his head". I'm surprise the public hasn't petition the government for the death penalty for those who put towels on their head when their team is losing.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

^^^^lol

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

I don't think those guys are loved. The media just haven't found justifiable reasons to chastise them. The media also understands that if they attempt to chastise those guys it will raise eyebrow by the black community. Pretty much, the media try to only pick on one black guy at a time. When it comes to Cam they wanna be able to say "well RG3 is black, we're not picking on him so we're not racist. We only hate Cam because he put a towel over his head". I'm surprise the public hasn't petition the government for the death penalty for those who put towels on their head when their team is losing.


you do realize parts of the media are black don't you?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:32 PM

brian billick comes to mind when labeling "black quarterbacks" although he didnt use that phrase. He said something like, "who looks like Cam and has won a superbowl" or something of that nature. Not sure if he meant the color of his skin or the fact he is a 6'6" 250 lb monster.

That lips-less prick meant his skin color. It's the same as the statement "how many running QB ever won a superbowl?". White racists just use description instead of the actual term black. Here is another example, what do you think they mean when they say "team A needs more speed in the backfield" or "Notre Dame needs to recruit more speed to be able to compete with SEC teams"? In a more honest and less racist society they could have just say black players. Sorry to say, but white people have difficulty communicating or getting along with other races. Which is kind of sad.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

you do realize parts of the media are black don't you?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:35 PM

That lips-less prick meant his skin color. It's the same as the statement "how many running QB ever won a superbowl?". White racists just use description instead of the actual term black. Here is another example, what do you think they mean when they say "team A needs more speed in the backfield" or "Notre Dame needs to recruit more speed to be able to compete with SEC teams"? In a more honest and less racist society they could have just say black players. Sorry to say, but white people have difficulty communicating or getting along with other races. Which is kind of sad.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

That lips-less prick meant his skin color. It's the same as the statement "how many running QB ever won a superbowl?". White racists just use description instead of the actual term black. Here is another example, what do you think they mean when they say "team A needs more speed in the backfield" or "Notre Dame needs to recruit more speed to be able to compete with SEC teams"? In a more honest and less racist society they could have just say black players. Sorry to say, but white people have difficulty communicating or getting along with other races. Which is kind of sad.



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:38 PM

whats funny is that mr. scot started this thread without realizing what kind of racial poo thread this would turn into.



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

you do realize parts of the media are black don't you?

But their employers are white. So they go with the flow. Towels are not that sacred to black people, I doubt they would care how someone use them. Lol

Cam was lucky he didn't blow his nose with that thing, he'd probably be in death row right now. whewww! That was close!

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

lol the overreacting.

you might need therapy.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

Lol BB

How does making a rule enforcing race to be a factor help make race not a factor?

Cam's race...don't really care about, don't care about arguments about it either. Doesn't matter to me enough.

The rooney rule and afirmative action = a joke and counter productive IME. Not because racism doesn't exist, or that it needs a solution but because fighting racism with racism is just going to stir more hate and does not contribute to giving the most qualified person the job.

The problem is you cannot force people who are already racist to change. If people are racist and have racist agendas, a law or rule is not going to stop them. Educating future generations is the goal and solution, poeple don't like that thought because it isn't an instant solution like a law or rule 'is'. You cannot fight racism with racism. Getting racism out of society IS A PROCESS. It is something to work for, strive towards not something you just 'fix' or 'force', especially in the south.

Force a racist to interview a minority and you really think they'll all of a sudden change their ways and realize their faults? Not likely. But if anything I believe these rules are just masks over a problem that simply has no short-term solution. It's a mask that says "hey look we have a rule so we can't racist/hiring certain races!" Needless to say I am AGAINST minority hiring/interviewing on the basis of being a minority.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:19 PM

i don't think it was a consideration.

what i'm wondering is how much rivera thought it should be since he found it disheartening that no minorities were hired for HC jobs. if he thought it was a big enough deal then maybe he should have hired hue to be his OC, unless OC doesn't count. guy was certainly qualified enough.


Your point is germaine. When they looked at the staffs of teams with minority head coaaches the coordinators were overwhelmingly white. Unless gingers are a minority Rivera is following the trend with 2 white coordinators. If minorities don't hire minorities themselves then how can they bitch.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

whats funny is that mr. scot started this thread without realizing what kind of racial poo thread this would turn into.

Stop pretending we're all living is this nice magical bubble universe called sports where race doesn't matter. This is no a homogeneous country. This a society where minority get screwed for the happy well-being of the majority. Pretending that's not the case is a disservice in itself. This is a world where Cam get shitted on for putting a towel on his head and great humorous articles are written about Cutler's grumpiness after showing off his teammates.


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