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#46 TheRumGone

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:52 PM

Stop pretending we're all living is this nice magical bubble universe called sports where race doesn't matter. This is no a homogeneous country. This a society where minority get screwed for the happy well-being of the majority. Pretending that's not the case is a disservice in itself. This is a world where Cam get shitted on for putting a towel on his head and great humorous articles are written about Cutler's grumpiness after showing off his teammates.




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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:00 PM

Lol BB

How does making a rule enforcing race to be a factor help make race not a factor?

Cam's race...don't really care about, don't care about arguments about it either. Doesn't matter to me enough.

The rooney rule and afirmative action = a joke and counter productive IME. Not because racism doesn't exist, or that it needs a solution but because fighting racism with racism is just going to stir more hate and does not contribute to giving the most qualified person the job.

The problem is you cannot force people who are already racist to change. If people are racist and have racist agendas, a law or rule is not going to stop them. Educating future generations is the goal and solution, poeple don't like that thought because it isn't an instant solution like a law or rule 'is'. You cannot fight racism with racism. Getting racism out of society IS A PROCESS. It is something to work for, strive towards not something you just 'fix' or 'force', especially in the south.

Force a racist to interview a minority and you really think they'll all of a sudden change their ways and realize their faults? Not likely. But if anything I believe these rules are just masks over a problem that simply has no short-term solution. It's a mask that says "hey look we have a rule so we can't racist/hiring certain races!" Needless to say I am AGAINST minority hiring/interviewing on the basis of being a minority.


Nobody have time to wait generations. That's total crap. It all boils down to the players. They have more power than you think. The league is about 70% black. if they all start talking the league will have no option but to react. The NBA was the same way at some point until players like Barkley started talking. In the business of sports the players are the commodity. The owners don't have a physical ownership of anything but contracts of great athletes and the revenue they generate. Unhappy players, unhappy league. Though, it seams so far the players are content. All the power to them.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPXrLWm7fE

stood corrected. You're white and happy, why would you have time for meaningless issues like black exclusion. And of course, with more 'speed' in the backfield the panther can make the playoffs, right?

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:07 PM

stood corrected. You're white and happy, why would you have time for meaningless issues like black exclusion. And of course, with more 'speed' in the backfield the panther can make the playoffs, right?



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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:09 PM

I was just laughing at your comments. Nothing Iposted was to you really.

But when you say option to react, option to react and do what exactly? What is the goal?

Because just recentley there was negeotiations between players and owners and both seemed happy at the end...what exactly are you proposing the players do with that power...in other words what are you negotiating? You want the players to own the NFL? Or you want the NFL to turn into basketball?

Nobody have time to wait generations. That's total crap.


This is why racim is slowly fading instead of quickly dying out. People like you drag it on through creating self-fufilling prophecies and devoting your energy to action instead of education and prevention. I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along. Did you not understand my original post? Once again, you cannnot convince most racist people they're racist or wrong. You can rarley change someone's opinion like that. And trying to by force won't do anything either and will contribute to more prophecies.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:39 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4f9zR5yzY

Pretty humorous. But I disagree with one thing in the video, the part where he says anytime in the past was always great for white people. Well, in the 200k years of human existence, for about 160k of it black people were the sole resident of this planet we call earth. The Egyptian empire(the first and oldest black civilization) ruled the for over 6K. Pretty much the invention of the gun powder and automatic weapon was the dawn of white supremacy which is barely 600 years old. But that's a different topic all together.

Yes, there was a time when Africans were the only humans on this planet. (I hope this come across as only informational.)

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:42 PM

Pretty humorous. But I disagree with one thing in the video, the part where he says anytime in the past was always great for white people. Well, in the 200k years of human existence, for about 160k of it black people were the sole resident of this planet we call earth. The Egyptian empire(the first and oldest black civilization) ruled the for over 6K. Pretty much the invention of the gun powder and automatic weapon was the dawn of white supremacy which is barely 600 years old. But that's a different topic all together.

Yes, there was a time when Africans were the only humans on this planet. (I hope this come across as only informational.)


I studied history for 5 years dude. I know this we all come from Africa. Take a joke and lighten up a bit. Its not as bad as you think it is. And it's not as good as some people think it is. There's shades of grey with everything. Just relax. The video is meant as comedy. Louis C.K. is a smart comic he knows this.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:43 PM

Stop pretending we're all living is this nice magical bubble universe called sports where race doesn't matter.


To a pretty significant portion of us, it actually doesn't.

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:57 PM

Look at Wilson, Kaepernick and RGIII. All not-white and loved by the media. Once Cam is in the playoffs, the media will love him too.

Black is more than a skin tone. Mr. Rodgers is blacker than those guys.....

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:58 PM

whats funny is that mr. scot started this thread without realizing what kind of racial poo thread this would turn into.


The article contains no criticism of Newton whatsoever, and yet the conversation quickly becomes about defending Newton from criticism :unsure:

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

I was just laughing at your comments. Nothing Iposted was to you really.

But when you say option to react, option to react and do what exactly? What is the goal?

Because just recentley there was negeotiations between players and owners and both seemed happy at the end...what exactly are you proposing the players do with that power...in other words what are you negotiating? You want the players to own the NFL? Or you want the NFL to turn into basketball?



This is why racim is slowly fading instead of quickly dying out. People like you drag it on through creating self-fufilling prophecies and devoting your energy to action instead of education and prevention. I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along. Did you not understand my original post? Once again, you cannnot convince most racist people they're racist or wrong. You can rarley change someone's opinion like that. And trying to by force won't do anything either and will contribute to more prophecies.

Well, the reason there are black coaches in the NBA is because their superstar players speak out and have input on who they want to be coached by.

"I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along."?

You're such a hypocrite. I like how you're on the other side fugging others up the anus while preaching them to be patient. If you're on the other side, how would you know how I should fight my war? What experience do you have. Don't patronize me, dude! You can't be a victim too. Only I get to cry in this story. Lol

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:11 PM

Well, the reason there are black coaches in the NBA is because their superstar players speak out and have input on who they want to be coached by.

"I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along."?

You're such a hypocrite. I like how you're on the other side fugging others up the anus while preaching them to be patient. If you're on the other side, how would you know how I should fight my war? What experience do you have. Don't patronize me, dude! You can't be a victim too. Only I get to cry in this story. Lol


I hope you are not an adult, cause then all hope is lost. And since i believe you to be around 16-22 I hope for your sake you drop this mentality. You will have a pretty miserable life if you don't. We have all been victims of something in one form or another. Free yourself from this bullshit, you will live a more meaningful life.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:04 AM

Well, the reason there are black coaches in the NBA is because their superstar players speak out and have input on who they want to be coached by.

"I realize my priveleges and also know if I were at the other end of this process, it's suck but its still a process and one you can help along."?

You're such a hypocrite. I like how you're on the other side fugging others up the anus while preaching them to be patient. If you're on the other side, how would you know how I should fight my war? What experience do you have. Don't patronize me, dude! You can't be a victim too. Only I get to cry in this story. Lol



Allies. Minorities need them. Gays, Women rights. It's more than just race and allies help the cause by speaking out as well. I don't fug anyone, I am a poor ass student going to college for as long as I can, see it's ok for you to group white people all in the group that doesn't get screwed but there are plenty of white poeple who get screwed too. Maybe for other reasons or for no reason. Call me a hypocrite all you want but it just shows what a poor judge you are because I am an active ally. Taking action by force is only going to reinforce unfound fears and sterotypes, and you'll start to move backwards. I'm done here because it's obvious I am talking to an extremist.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:32 AM

I hope you are not an adult, cause then all hope is lost. And since i believe you to be around 16-22 I hope for your sake you drop this mentality. You will have a pretty miserable life if you don't. We have all been victims of something in one form or another. Free yourself from this bullshit, you will live a more meaningful life.

Who victimized & exploited whites and exclude them from being coaches in a league where they're 70% of? I must have missed that part during my study of history.

And no, hope is not lost cause I believe sports and race aren't mutually exclusive. Sports will always be the field where white people try to prove their racial supremacy. And many whites believe black people are in the way in doing that.

I know, reality bites.



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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:53 AM

whoa whats going on??

i dont think anyone can prove their racial surpemcy by beating you in sports. maybe education but not sports man. your not eistein just because you can draw up good offenses


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