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How has it been busted several times the past few days?

Because several times I've posted rookie WR stats and shown they can make an impact.

maybe I should just make a thread on this or something

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I don't get it

We need immediate impact, but you're against WR 1st round

To me all of the oline probably will be gone by the time we pick, which is why I made this thread

Apparently he thinks no WR can make an immediate impact because Julio Jone's didn't.

That statement is dumb on so many levels. He had 959 yards and 8 TD's in his rookie year. Thats as much TD'S as Steve Smith and Lafell had combined last year.

So Jones does prove a rookie like several have before can succeed and be an immediate impact.

Here's a mind blower for you. Keary Colbert had more TD's (5) in his rookie year than Smith or Lafell had last year. He also had more yards than Lafell has had in either of his first 2 seasons. Granted he steadily fell off over the next couple years but still he was a rookie receiver making an impact.

And gets even better when you consider Jake Delhomme was the QB, we had no run game because Davis and Foster got hurt forcing Nick Goings to become a starter at RB. Then our o-line was horrendous Right Tackle was held down by the worst starter in panthers history with Matt Willig(9 starts). our guards were a rookie Wharton,Tutan Reyes, Jeff Mitchell at center and a 2nd year Gross starting at LT for the first year playing on the left side rounded out our o-line.

Steve Smth was hurt all year in 04 so we had Moose and Rookie Colbert out there with Kris Mangum at TE,no running a game and a very bad offensive line. Jake Delhomme managed 3,886 yards and 29 TD's with only 15 picks.On top of all that Dan Henning was the offensive coordinator!

Aside from QB and LT, WR is probably the most important position on offense. These days you really need 2 of them and right now Smith is the 2nd oldest player on the team to Ron Edwards.

Lafell can immediately be penciled in as a solid # 3 which is good. However we need a TD scorer to help us get the most out of Smith in his final year(s) and be a future weapon for Cam.

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really warming up to kenny vaccaro. I ve been hearing hes moving into the top ten. I atleast hope we have the option of him being on the board when we pick

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It's a popular opinion (one that I share) that there's not much separating the top 7 or so WRs. So that's why many of us are all for getting a WR in the 2nd but not as ecstatic about one in the first. They all seem like late first/early second round picks and one or two of them are bound to be available when we pick in the 2nd. We can spend a 2nd and get a guy not much (if any) worse than who we coulda got in the 1st. Whatever happens to Smitty, whether we get Allen or Patterson in the 1st or wait til the 2nd to get a guy like Hunter, Hopkins, Rogers, Patton or Woods we'll be in the same situation.

This type of thing is often what we are fed as fans by reading reviews, scouting reports,mock drafts and watching highlight tapes. Truth is of those top 7 WR's I'd say half never live up to the hype as happens every year at different positions the deep was supposedly deep at. Only way to reduce that risk is to take the 1 or 2 who separate themselves from the pack.

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How has it been busted several times the past few days?

2012 Rookies

Blackmon 865 yards and 5 TD's -With Gabbert as his QB

TY Hilton 861 yards and 7 TD's

Josh Gordon 805 yards and 5 TD- With Weeden as his QB

Several more had over 500 yards and a varying TD receptions.

2011 Rookies

Julio Jones-posted earlier

AJ Green- 1057 yards with 7 TD's- from the ginger

Torrey Smith 841 yards and 7 TD's

Randall Cobb 300 yards, with a crowed receiving core.

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I swear I'm the only guy on this site that has no desire to grab Keenan Allen whatsoever. I watch a decent amount of Cal games and he is very meh from what I've seen.

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I swear I'm the only guy on this site that has no desire to grab Keenan Allen whatsoever. I watch a decent amount of Cal games and he is very meh from what I've seen.

I agree....He screams second rounder to me.

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Because this draft is very deep with little to no top tier can't miss prospects I keep hearing that teams are looking to draft "their guy" in the first round regardless of grade. This may lead to both, players no one was expecting to go in the top ten going in the top ten and top ten favorites to fall in the draft. The Panthers could really catch a break if this scenario plays out.

(By, I keep hearing, I mean on the radio and tv. No I'm not njpanther.)

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I think a reason so many are split on wideouts this draft is because there's obviously no clear cut Green/Jones/Calvin type impact player however a strong crop of 10 or so near the front. I however don't get how some are content with what we have. Its not good, along with our o-line, and along with our safeties.

Bottom line, we all have our own preferences. Drafts are more than often quite funny to see in retrospect after a season because of all of these preconceived notions and break downs of how the prospects line up with to other years get so over analyzed. There are gonna be some very good WRs in this class imo like most year's, I just hope we pick right.

I personally like DeAndre Hopkins, Quinton Patton, Terrance Williams, Markus Wheaton...but that's just my uninformed opinion. They'd fit well on our squad.

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I swear I'm the only guy on this site that has no desire to grab Keenan Allen whatsoever. I watch a decent amount of Cal games and he is very meh from what I've seen.

I think a lot of people forget what he did his sophomore year

Want somebody to surely move the chains, draft Allen. You want somebody who can move all over and create mismatches, draft Allen. His quickness is very overlooked. There's also nobody who can run routes like he can in this draft

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Keep hoping for those second teir wrs. I don't care if we have Cam a qb needs somebody to throw to. The raiders game that he got eaten up how many times did they point out that noone was open. I've watched the games I've been to the games and a common theme is we don't have any playmakers at the WR spot. Smitty can't do it forever.

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