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WR's drafted by the Panthers since 2002 - the case to draft a WR in round 1?

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I was right last year about Stephen Hill. Just saying.

come on dude.

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come on dude.

What??? Dudes were slobbering over him last year now not so much.

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Does he remind you of another Wr? Just asking.

I don't want to compare him to another WR because if I do it automatically means I think he'll end up like said WR, good or bad, and I don't want that. Like I said before, I know another player that was a beast at a D1 school and then dropped down to a D2 school because of off field issues (real or perceived) and we ended up picking him one overall and he's changed the franchise. I was opposed to it at the time, and have gladly eaten crow a million times. I didn't want him but got behind him the second Goodell called his name. Ill do the same for Patterson if we take him. I'm jaded against WR's drafted here. Jarrett broke my heart. I thought he would be a number one easy.

I don't pretend to be a college ball expert, but it seems we could go Oline or DT in the first and get D'er'ric'k Rodgers in the second and have a similar player to Patterson. Don't listen to me though, I draft by what guys I think will look cool on Madden.

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You might want to check your list Holmes, Jennings didn't blow up until their 3rd year and Plax best year in his Career was his 3rd year. Plus I didn't know we were adding TE.

holmes had 942 and 8 TDs his second year.

jennings had 920 yards and 12 TDs his second year.

burress had 1008 yards and 6 TDs his 2nd year.

i'm not talking about their best year, but i am talking about the imact they had. i don't know what kind of crazy standards you're using, but i'd consider that an impact.

and i'd hardly consider gronk and graham TEs. sure, that's their position but their primary function in the offense is as a receiver.

btw.....i have never said patterson is a "can't miss" prospect. i have said repeatedly he's a "swing for the fences" prospect. i don't consider really any but a very small handful of any draft to be "can't miss" prospects.

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Don't care for a WR at 14. OL/DL talent falls off quicker than WR in this draft.

I have nothing against picking a WR from 2nd and beyond, though. Of course...that goes against the epitome of this thread. But still...we have a different draft philosopher in the drivers seat this year. Lets see what he can do deep in the draft while solidifying our holes with top of the line talent.

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holmes had 942 and 8 TDs his second year.

jennings had 920 yards and 12 TDs his second year.

burress had 1008 yards and 6 TDs his 2nd year.

i'm not talking about their best year, but i am talking about the imact they had. i don't know what kind of crazy standards you're using, but i'd consider that an impact.

and i'd hardly consider gronk and graham TEs. sure, that's their position but their primary function in the offense is as a receiver.

btw.....i have never said patterson is a "can't miss" prospect. i have said repeatedly he's a "swing for the fences" prospect. i don't consider really any but a very small handful of any draft to be "can't miss" prospects.

Jennings became the number 1 wr his 3rd year. When he got the most targets on his team 139 caught 80 balls for 1,200 yards and 9 TD. He reach his full potential his 3rd year. His 2nd year he had 30 less rec. and 50 less targets. He wasn't facing the other teams best CB nor was his TEam main target. Driver was but that change his third season. I'll break down the rest of your crap later.

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Jennings became the number 1 wr his 3rd year. When he got the most targets on his team 139 caught 80 balls for 1,200 yards and 9 TD. He reach his full potential his 3rd year. His 2nd year he had 30 less rec. and 50 less targets. He wasn't facing the other teams best CB nor was his TEam main target. Driver was but that change his third season. I'll break down the rest of your crap later.

You are splitting hairs so bad i am about to go bald.

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Jennings became the number 1 wr his 3rd year. When he got the most targets on his team 139 caught 80 balls for 1,200 yards and 9 TD. He reach his full potential his 3rd year. His 2nd year he had 30 less rec. and 50 less targets. He wasn't facing the other teams best CB nor was his TEam main target. Driver was but that change his third season. I'll break down the rest of your crap later.

lol crap.

i'm not talking about full potential. i'm talking about ability to make an impact. what player from any position reaches their full potential in the first couple years of playing? i doubt that aj green and julio jones reached their full potential yet. did randy moss reach his his rookie year?

you don't have to wait years to tell if you'll be anything more than an average WR, which is all we have aside from smitty...and that's being generous.

for many you can tell quickly what they are likely to become.

now i'm sure you're going to find one little stat that you'll spin "masterfully" to back up your "fact" that it takes 3 years or whatever but the honest and real truth is many times it doesn't take long for players to make an impact. some it does...yes. some players take a few years for them to "get it" but that doesn't mean that they don't/can't/won't produce quite a bit because quite often they do.

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Jennings became the number 1 wr his 3rd year. When he got the most targets on his team 139 caught 80 balls for 1,200 yards and 9 TD. He reach his full potential his 3rd year. His 2nd year he had 30 less rec. and 50 less targets. He wasn't facing the other teams best CB nor was his TEam main target. Driver was but that change his third season. I'll break down the rest of your crap later.

Jennings had 12 TD's his 2nd year.Lafell has had 7 total over 3 years and he had has the 2nd most targets to Smith since his rookie year.

So I am not sure if you are trying to argue he's gonna breakout and eliminate the need for a receiver or if you just think a different non 1st round receiver should be drafted and groomed for 3 years or what.

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