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this happens at the local level. people are pushed into a corner about tax increases or the library will be closed or fireman Mike will have to get on food stamps.

the govt will sensationalize something to drum up fear due to stupidity and the masses fall for it time and time again.

maybe job losses and things falling apart that quickly sort of expose how horribly ran some of these areas are ran. nah. nobody will look at it like that. not with political party glasses.

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or maybe "job losses and things falling apart that quickly sort of expose how horribly" underfunded most government programs (that don't involve jailing minorities or blowing up the middle east) already are

see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

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in other news

Democratic Florida Congressman Alan Grayson told HuffPost Live on Friday that he believes the automatic spending cuts triggered by sequestration should be replaced with a bill to immediately end the war in Afghanistan.

"Listen, we're facing a nine percent cut in the food stamps program, a nine percent cut in home heating oil programs, nine percent cut in civil aeronautics, nine percent cuts in all sort of things that people actually use in their everyday lives -- and we'd save the same amount of money if we simply ended the war in Afghanistan now," Grayson told HuffPost Live host Alyona Minkovski.

"What's the point?" Grayson continued. "Can't we at least make intelligent choices and get our priorities straight?"

Grayson said his amendment, which was blocked by Republicans before it could go to a vote, would call for ending the war in 30 days, unless President Barack Obama felt this would put American servicemen and women's lives at risk.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/08/alan-grayson-sequester-afghanistan-war_n_2840242.html

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We're leaving anyways, it's going to be about as messed up there as when we came in, so yeah there is some kind of logic there if we were really serious about cuts.

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Cuts and smart spending or big dif. But yes we are leaving reallocation of funds can only help.

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or maybe "job losses and things falling apart that quickly sort of expose how horribly" underfunded most government programs (that don't involve jailing minorities or blowing up the middle east) already are

see: http://en.wikipedia....tarve_the_beast

How much more than 3.8 trillion dollars annually is needed to keep programs from being underfunded?

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That's like asking:

How much more than 250 a month is needed to make your car payment?

The answer is: However much the car actually costs per month. The "250" is just a number I pulled out of thin air.

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That's like asking:

How much more than 250 a month is needed to make your car payment?

The answer is: However much the car actually costs per month. The "250" is just a number I pulled out of thin air.

How much of your children's future is worth putting on their credit card for this "car" that they'll likely never drive?

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You just completely changed the subject.

But the answer is:

A strong economy creates jobs and revenue.

All efforts should be made to create a strong economy.

In bad economic times, government spending plays an important part in shallowing the bottom.

Cutting government spending when it is needed most actually makes it harder to get back to the better times.

We are mostly over that phase now, but the damage done by the Republicans in demanding one sided cuts and a focus on the debt, for the sole purpose of "defeating Obama" when a focus on the actual economy should have been front and center, has had it's intended effect on the economy, just not on Obama. Everyone lost on their bet.

I see Ryan trotted out the same old crap today. No Pentagon cuts, more cuts for the rich, and more screwing the regular people. Someone forgot to tell him people hated his ideas before, and people will hate them more now.

As far as "my kids" and "my credit card" goes, WWII was paid off as government spending increased because the economy kept getting stronger and stronger, and we had the highest tax rates on the rich in our history at that time. In fact it's those times that Republicans seem to want to return to but never mention how the economics worked. It's too simple about how this all works. All it takes is the ability to look at history.

Again, sure there are things we can cut and get away with, and Obama has been willing to listen to a lot of it. But "vouchers" for Medicare? That's like death panels without the panels. And that "my plan depends on repealing Obamacare" crap....for god sakes wake up, even Rick Scott knows its bullshit now, grow up.

As a Democrat, there is a perverse pleasure in seeing the Republicans continuously forced into a bad, shrinking corner built on the rhetoric they've locked into over the years, but realistically we need the Republicans to help curb the Dems excesses - unfortunately they are not able to do that because the Tea Party knuckleheads keep forcing them to come up with non starters on every issue out there which in turn digs their hole with voters deeper.

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