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#16 GOOGLE RON PAUL

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:16 AM

noted socialist jan brewer implores republicans to stop being stupid over the sequester:



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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:27 AM

also

The Pentagon has grounded its fleet of F-35 fighter jets, after discovering a cracked engine blade in one plane.
The problem was discovered during what the Pentagon called a routine inspection at Edwards Air Force Base, California, of an F-35A, the Air Force version of the sleek new plane. The Navy and the Marine Corps are buying other versions of the F-35, which is intended to replace older fighters like the Air Force F-16 and the Navy F/A-18.


The F-35 is the Pentagon's most expensive weapons program at a total estimated cost of nearly $400bn. The Pentagon envisions buying more than 2,400 F-35s, but some members of Congress are not happy with the price tag.


http://www.guardian....ed-engine-blade

but let's blame people on food stamps for this manufactured crisis rather than wasteful defense spending and the same incredibly dumb people who thought that "not raising the debt ceiling" was some sort of real option

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:13 AM

Insert argument where none was made - check

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:16 AM

Not surprising.....Obama got the tax cuts with the perception that the spending cuts would be negotiated and come. Now he does not want the spending cut.

Guy is one of the most dishonest POS that has ever held the office of President....and that is saying something.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

Not surprising.....Obama got the tax cuts with the perception that the spending cuts would be negotiated and come. Now he does not want the spending cut.

Guy is one of the most dishonest POS that has ever held the office of President....and that is saying something.


We are working into a roughly 14 year stretch of 0 leadership from either party in Washington.

Poorly planned wars, poorly planned policies, just garbage all around

#21 g5jamz

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:24 AM

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You realize that you and cookinwithgas are the exact same coin, just two different sides.

How much of that 2013 number is associated with the Iraqi war ? Continuing operations in Afganistan? How much to the Stimulus that W himself stood with that wacko Pelosi and signed ?

You guys are so fuging busy pointing fingers at each about why the house is burning down, while the arsonist (Fed Gov) pours gas on the fire.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:27 AM

Obama's just a horrible liar...



You supported Bush for 8 years.

Nope, you still have no credibility on liars. Maybe next decade. :)

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

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How much of that is entitlements from baby boomers?

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

We are working into a roughly 14 year stretch of 0 leadership from either party in Washington.

Poorly planned wars, poorly planned policies, just garbage all around


I agree with you 100%.

GWB was an idiot and we are still paying for many of his bad decisions.

Obama is doing nothing to improve the situation and is just wanting to add more and more spending to the equation.

Difference between most Republicans and Democrats is....

Most Republicans know and admit that GWB was a huge mistake and an idiot.

Most Democrats refuse to see the damage that Obama is causing and continue to make excuses for him.

i swear the guy could go on a crime spree (killing thousands) and his supporters woudl find someway to spin it as a positive for him....and that it was somehow GWB's fault.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

Who here is defending GWB? Strawman. If you want to look at it another way....the vast majority of defense spending on wars was still in full swing in 2007 and we still only had a deficit of what you see in the charts. If you're concerned with % of what's entitlements vs. other...anyone can get them. The graphic is simply putting into perspective the chicken little speech Obama gave regarding the budget/sequester.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:42 AM

If you're concerned with % of what's entitlements vs. other...anyone can get them. The graphic is simply putting into perspective the chicken little speech Obama gave regarding the budget/sequester.


What would the graphic look like without medicare, SS, and military spending? Those crumbs would look like a pretty big slice I think.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

Now all I can think about is pie.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:49 AM

You do realize that half of the sequestration is FROM defense spending and the other from other parts of the budget? Taking it out would defeat the purpose of the point being made.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

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It is almost like something cataclysmic happened in 2008 that resulted in major government expenditures to avoid a economic collapse that resulted in a recession that also required additional government money like unemployment benefits.

Here is a list of new spending that Obama is "responsible" for:

Children's Health Insurance

The Economic Stimulus (result of recession)

Helping Families Save Their Homes Act (result of mortgage crisis)

Auto Bailout (result of recession)

Obamacare increases the budget and spending but it is actually a deficit reducer according to the CBO.

Now in addition to those things that ballooned the budget there was also the Omnibus the Republicans tried to hold hostage because it had some increases in it due to the recession, there was war spending that had some discretionary spending in it, and there was a HUGE increase to cost of living adjustment of 5.8% for entitlement spending.

So outside of the Children's Health Insurance almost all of the spending that Obama did when he came into office was a result of the economic meltdown and the 2 wars.

Also, Obama's first year in office, actual spending increased a whopping 17.9 percent to 3.5 trillion. Of that 3.5 trillion Obama was "responsible" for about 5% of total spending and nearly all of that new spending that wasn't paid for was in response to the economic collapse. The vast majority of the reason for the whopping 17.9 percent increase in spending was because of policies that were in place before Obama took office (i.e. previous administration).

So basically pie charts are for the simple minded. I know Republicans hate it when people say this is a result of GWB (who I voted for twice mind you), but just because Republicans hate hearing it doesn't make it less true.

And people keep saying Obama can't find cuts. He wants tax increases but no cuts. Obama has presented a specific plan that has a roughly 2:1 cuts to revenue ratio. So he has a plan out now that has twice as many cuts as there are tax revenue.

Republicans like those cuts and has offered these cuts in the past. They just can't bring themselves to raise taxes on the rich people who fill their campaign coffers; plus the Tea Party is holding the speaker hostage, if he breaks on taxes they will take away his speakership.


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