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#46 NanuqoftheNorth

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

Ice cores are cylinders of ice drilled out of an ice sheet or glacier. Most ice core records come from Antarctica and Greenland, and the longest ice cores extend to 3km in depth. The oldest continuous ice core records to date extend 123,000 years in Greenland and 800,000 years in Antarctica. Ice cores contain information about past temperature, and about many other aspects of the environment. Crucially, the ice encloses small bubbles of air that contain a sample of the atmosphere — from these it is possible to measure directly the past concentration of gases (including carbon dioxide and methane) in the atmosphere.

and do we have an answer for the official age of the earth and how it relates to a small sample size of avg temp's due to just barely over a 100 yrs of data?

come on guys. i know you can nail this one.

Antarctic ice cores show us that the concentration of CO2 was stable over the last millennium until the early 19th century. It then started to rise, and its concentration is now nearly 40% higher than it was before the industrial revolution (see Fig. 2). Other measurements (e.g. isotopic data) confirm that the increase must be due to emissions of CO2 from fossil fuel usage and deforestation. Measurements from older ice cores (discussed below) confirm that both the magnitude and rate of the recent increase are almost certainly unprecedented over the last 800,000 years. http://www.antarctic...orebriefing.php

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:37 PM

The temps suitable for human civilization are a recent phenomenon, so yes there is some bias towards that.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

bias in the sense of using one report to fit one's argument. yes, temps and it's impact on humans are no question kind of a big deal.

again, i have no issue at all with trying to fix things in the environment. my whole beef is some groups or individuals have hitched their wagons to climate change with no goal or motive to fix anything but their bank accts.

and the masses will take whatever is thrown their way, the deniers or the truthers, and not vet things and do their own DD.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:06 PM

bias in the sense of using one report to fit one's argument. yes, temps and it's impact on humans are no question kind of a big deal.

again, i have no issue at all with trying to fix things in the environment. my whole beef is some groups or individuals have hitched their wagons to climate change with no goal or motive to fix anything but their bank accts.

and the masses will take whatever is thrown their way, the deniers or the truthers, and not vet things and do their own DD.


Who is making all this money? Outside of Al Gore of course

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

i don't have the list right in front of me. i'm go out on a limb and day Al wasn't the only one.

#51 Delhommey

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

Who is making all this money? Outside of Al Gore of course


The fat cats at Big Carbon Tax.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:15 PM

http://www.freakonom...omy-of-a-smear/

this link sums up my take on all of this. i'm just the type doesn't go with the crowd no matter what it is. i try to dig and do as much of my own homework first.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:31 PM

So you believe that climate change is man made and potentially catastrophic.

Glad we're on the same page again.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:39 PM

what % of it is man made?

#55 Delhommey

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:46 PM

thats what i thought.

and of course there are man made elements. we kind of are the ones who invented pollution. remember?

and of course if some things don't get better, it can be catastrophic. duh.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:05 AM

Sorry I'm not bothering to entertain the recycled tobacco lobbyist discussions.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 02:53 AM

http://www.freakonom...omy-of-a-smear/

this link sums up my take on all of this. i'm just the type doesn't go with the crowd no matter what it is. i try to dig and do as much of my own homework first.

Well the link seems to suggest that global warming is a problem, but we should just try to find a way to compensate rather than stop whats causing it in the first place. Probably a more realistic solution though, because we certainly arent using less power going forward.

Dont know about the "Stratoshield," mainly because it involves pumping an ozone destroying chemical into the bottom of the ozone layer

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 03:13 AM

so basically pstall's mad that people keep arguing over whether or not man made global warming is real but instead of targeting the numbskulls who keep making stupid fuging arguments against it and in turn prohibit real policy change, he's just mad that scientists are receiving grants to keep showing that global warming is real. is that what this is about? because environmental scientists can literally list dozens of policies that would have real, positive impacts in the fight against global warming but they're perpetually blocked by lobbyists, dumb policymakers and their dumb constituents

#60 pstall

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:38 AM

Cantrell I wonder if when you are at the beach and one of those little airplanes fly by with an ad banner on the back of it you aren't the only one there who goes to buy suntan lotion when the ad was saying its free.

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