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#16 CPF4LIFE

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:23 AM

If it can work within the cap and not screw is down the road, fine I suppose. Deangelo just needs to get on his horse sooner. He takes so long to get going every season.


Him or the offensive line?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

I have done a poo ton of research on this cap thing and have been advocating keeping for a long time. Nobody has presented a logical reason(including cap implications) to cut him now. Appearently Gettleman agrees that cutting him now makes no sense what so ever but yet CRA continues his blind hate for D-WIll.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:29 AM

Him or the offensive line?


Both it seems. The entire franchise actually. We seem to get that "oh poo it's time to start playing?" moment about week 7.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:30 AM

Judging our backfield purely on last season is idiotic.


Okay, judge it by 2011....or the fact no other team would even think of such.

There aren't the carries to justify it.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

Okay, judge it by 2011....or the fact no other team would even think of such.

There aren't the carries to justify it.


Then why is Gettleman keeping him?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:34 AM

I have done a poo ton of research on this cap thing and have been advocating keeping for a long time. Nobody has presented a logical reason(including cap implications) to cut him now. Appearently Gettleman agrees that cutting him now makes no sense what so ever but yet CRA continues his blind hate for D-WIll.


It has nothing to do with Williams if you actually listen to the argument.

It has to do with a limited amount of rushing attempts available....and the money better suited to go toward a player that plays every down.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:35 AM

Then why is Gettleman keeping him?


Like you said earlier it has to be because of the cap. Im not a cap guy by any means. Cutting him probably doesn't make enough of an impact cap wise at this point. The value of keeping him must outweigh the value of cutting him.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:35 AM

I'm not happy about our expensive backfield and I'm not including Tolbert bc hes not expensive, but I am glad that we're keeping D Will. They're different backs and each appears to be the better back when one is used to his strengths. I hope that our offense will play to both of their strenths when they are in the game.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:36 AM

Then why is Gettleman keeping him?


Maybe bc the mess is too big to solve this year....and lameduck Rivera will be just that.

Or maybe old man Gettleman is stubborn and old school. Maybe he is going to give Rivera the wrong bodies like Hurney did to run a modern scheme with Newton. I think that could be a very realistic view. Force Ron into X....

Tough to argue that over the last 2 years....Williams is an a investment the coaches have wanted.

There are holes all over this roster and yet we are still the only team in the NFL that over invests in a backfield (having Cam just makes it more comical).

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

It has nothing to do with Williams if you actually listen to the argument.

It has to do with a limited amount of rushing attempts available....and the money better suited to go toward a player that plays every down.


Why can't you comprehend that not matter how you shake a stick at it, the cost of cutting him is 9.6 million.Spread it over 1 or 2 years and its still 9.6 million. We can keep him for 8.2 million and cut him next year and save money without carrying over dead money into the future.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

It is literally cheaper to keep D-will than cut him. 9.6 million immediate cap for cutting him or we can keep him for 8.2 million. Not that hard of a decision.




so we can pay 9.6 mill to not have him play, or pay 8.2 mill to have him play.

Sounds like we did the right thing.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

Dwill Is an exelent back. Running read option and out of shotgun is not utilizing an exelent back. Getting smacked behind the los is not his problem.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

Sounds like a used car salesman answer. Look for a trade

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

Like you said earlier it has to be because of the cap. Im not a cap guy by any means. Cutting him probably doesn't make enough of an impact cap wise at this point. The value of keeping him must outweigh the value of cutting him.


BINGO!

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

ha.

talk about reaching and making mountains out of molehills.

this whole write up is based on one comment gettleman made a couple days ago when he said he doesn't know why they shouldn't be able to keep both. he didn't say anything about intention. he said decisions have to be made, but he didn't see why they wouldn't be able to make it work.

i do think the panthers would like to keep him, but those very few words gettleman spoke doesn't carry the meaning joe thinks it does.

joe is doing his best yas and florio impression throwing poo at the wall and seeing if it sticks.


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