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#31 Fiz

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:47 AM

Thats excellent if we can find a way to acclamate both contracts. Wonderful news.

Accommodate

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

Why can't you comprehend that not matter how you shake a stick at it, the cost of cutting him is 9.6 million.Spread it over 1 or 2 years and its still 9.6 million. We can keep him for 8.2 million and cut him next year and save money without carrying over dead money into the future.


Making him a June 1st cut saves money in 2013 and 2014.

Would give us more room to bring in a body that plays every down in a position of need.

Hurney screwed us so nothing is ideal. If all we do is cut Gamble....Hurney could of and would have done that. The hiring of Gettlemen very easily could of been Richardson simply bringing in the same old same old. Gettlemen needs to do something besides just land a 1st round draft pick.....his brilliance shouldn't be celebrated yet....

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:50 AM

ha.

talk about reaching and making mountains out of molehills.

this whole write up is based on one comment gettleman made a couple days ago when he said he doesn't know why they shouldn't be able to keep both. he didn't say anything about intention. he said decisions have to be made, but he didn't see why they wouldn't be able to make it work.

i do think the panthers would like to keep him, but those very few words gettleman spoke doesn't carry the meaning joe thinks it does.


He does also cite a "league source" (probably DeAngelo's agent).

Still, on the whole it's speculation, and you always have to be careful about taking reporter speculation as gospel.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:52 AM

Accommodate


Pts for the correction..Edited ..why did I think acclamate I wonder?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

He does also cite a "league source" (probably DeAngelo's agent).

Still, on the whole it's speculation, and you always have to be careful about taking reporter speculation as gospel.

agreed....esp. person's. the guy has proven that he's a hack.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 11:55 AM

2013 Cap hits

Cam+ Stewart+ Tolbert = roughly 11 mill

Rivera's 2nd favorite RB = 8 mill

Yeah, keeping Williams and not asking him to rip up his deal or be cut makes tons of sense.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

2013 Cap hits

Cam+ Stewart+ Tolbert = roughly 11 mill

Rivera's 2nd favorite RB = 8 mill

Yeah, keeping Williams and not asking him to rip up his deal or be cut makes tons of sense.

if we keep williams, it has to be done.

I'm sure that there's some way it could be worked out so that williams is kept without much work on his contract, but it would bite us in the butt elsewhere. mathematics can not be defied. we have a cap and to keep him, esp. with that contract means sacrifices to other positions would have to be made and you have to ask...is it worth it to keep him? i say no...not at that price and with his reduced role and the other options available.

he is just too easily and cheaply replaceable.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

CRA your missing the point completely.

Heres your options in their simplest form.

A. Cut him now and eat the 1.6 million and be done with it.

B. Cut him a June 1st cut and save 3.8 million this year but carry over 4.6 million in dead money next year.(this is stealing from paul(2014 cap) to pay peter(2013 cap).

C.Cut him next year as a non june 1st cut and be done with it completey and still save 3.8 million in 14.

D. Magically find a way to restructure him in spite of the immense difficulties because of the signing bonus Hurney gave him and keep him for another 2-3 years at a smaller cap hit.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:09 PM

on an unrelated note, does anyone else hate looking at persons face?

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:09 PM

CRA your missing the point completely.\

Heres your options in their simplest form.

A. Cut him now and eat the 1.6 million and be done with it.

B. Cut him a June 1st cut and save 3.8 million this year but carry over 4.6 million in dead money next year.(this is stealing from paul(2014 cap) to pay peter(2013 cap).

C.Cut him next year as a non june 1st cut and be done with it completey and still save 3.8 million in 14.

D. Magically find a way to restructure him in spite of the immense difficulties because of the signing bonus Hurney gave him and keep him for another 2-3 years at a smaller cap hit.

B. Create some pretty significant cap space in 2013 AND 2014.

Use the room to get someone who can start at a real area of need. OL, DT, S, CB for example.....

Point is Williams' role is too small for his cap hitS. It cost us at other spots. We don't want Nakamura's starting in order to have great RB depth.

3/5 of our OL takes up the cap space of Williams' lunch money. It just is a bad deal for us.


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