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#41 Car123

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:19 PM

He takes so long to get going every season.

Yep even his 1515 yard season

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:20 PM

B. Create some pretty significant cap space in 2013 AND 2014.

Use the room to get someone who can start at a real area of need. OL, DT, S, CB for example.....


B creates 4.6 million dead money in 14, thats 800k more than we are saving in 13. So have the cap room now and fug ourselves in the future is what you wanna do.

Pay him 9.6 million over the next 2 years(4.8 million per year in 13 and 14) to never play another down for us

If we are going the June 1st route to save money then its a million times better to do it next year.


The option I prefer
If we cut him in 14 we save 6 million in 14 and 7 million in 15. Thats 21 million in savings . 11.5 million per year savings in 2 years


The option you prefer
If we cut him now we save 3.8 million in 13 and 4.6 million in 14 and 10.2 million in 15 thats 18.6 million savings over 3 years. 6.2 million per year savings over 3 years

tl; dr save 21 million in cap hits thru 15 and get to keep him for 13. or save 18.6 million in cap hits through 2015 and he never plays another down.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

B creates 4.6 million dead money in 14, thats 800k more than we are saving in 13. So have the cap room now and fug ourselves in the future is what you wanna do.

Pay him 9.6 million over the next 2 years(4.8 million per year in 13 and 14) to never play another down for us

If we are going the June 1st route to save money then its a million times better to do it next year.


The option I prefer
If we cut him in 14 we save 6 million in 14 and 7 million in 15. Thats 21 million in savings . 11.5 million per year savings in 2 years


The option you prefer
If we cut him now we save 3.8 million in 13 and 4.6 million in 14 and 10.2 million in 15 thats 18.6 million savings over 3 years. 6.2 million per year savings over 3 years

tl; dr save 21 million in cap hits thru 15 and get to keep him for 13. or save 18.6 million in cap hits through 2015 and he never plays another down.


Yeah, it creates dead money but it also creates ROOM....now and the future.

I'd rather have room to have a quality lineman or secondary player...whether he is on the roster or not we will pay Williams to essentially not play pending our roster is healthy. Not enough reps for you not to basically be paying him to sit.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

I'm fine with it but we need to actually give him and Stew carries, properly utilized of course.

Our QB should never lead the team in rushing.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

Yeah, it creates dead money but it also creates ROOM.


Ok so you would rather create 18 million in room over 3 years and lose him immediately than creating MORE ROOM (21 million) over that same time span all while getting 1 more year out of him.



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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

Ok so you would rather create 18 million in room over 3 years and lose him immediately than creating MORE ROOM (21 million) over that same time span all while getting more year out of him.


I'd rather not have Nakamura's on the roster just so we have the luxury of only giving a VERY expensive RB 8 carries a game.

If you want to keep all these RBs....don't complain when this years version of Nakamura cost us time after time.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

bunch of dummies on here

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

Who said Williams role is gonna stay the same next year? Chud is gone, we are gonna run the ball more with our RBs. You cant determine the future off the past.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

You keep your strengths a strength

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 01:04 PM

I'm just wondering what sacrifices have to be made to keep double trouble together? who are we going to have to cut and where are we going to get the cap space to pay for them?

where are we going to be weak because we are so intent on keeping an underutilized, unnecessary, and easily replaceable couple of players?

if we sacrifice other areas to keep double trouble together, then hurney shouldn't have been fired and gettleman is no upgrade. how gettleman handles this will be the best indicator of what to expect. is this feanchise going forward or are we doomed to repeat the futility of the past? that's what we'll find out.


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